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So please bear with my stupidity, but I got my first Wrangler(a Rubicon), and did stuff without knowing what the hell I was doing.

I’m on a trip in Tahoe City, and we stopped by a flat with a bank that had snow. Wanting to take a picture with the car in the snow, I went down the bank when the snow was deep and soft.

I went 4L and locked front and rears thinking that would help me out at the time, and of course it didn’t. Of course turning left and right and giving it a lot of short bursts of throttle trying whatever I was trying after I had everything locked up. Since I was stuck in snow with no traction whatsoever, I’m hoping that part didn’t cause any damage.

Eventually I got a recovery guy come and pull me out, but this is where I get concerned. He told me to keep my lockers engaged. And to give it a little bit of gas in reverse to help as he was pulling me out. But once I hit the pavement, I had to turn all the way right to avoid being pulled into a pole. This was a couple of feet.

Now that I’m out, I went to turn off the lockers. But they didn’t want to disengage, I’m assuming because I had steering angle. I couldn’t move forward since I was still facing the bank. So with the steering still locked to the right, I continued reversing until I was parallel with the road shoulder. At this point, I try disengaging the lockers again but it keeps flashing so I’m thinking I have to straighten out and roll for a little bit. This is all on pavement. So as I’m turning the steering wheel left, it feels looser than I’m expecting, and the car continues to veer right as I’m rolling forward slowly. I keep slowly stopping and tugging the wheel left, and then rolling and then tugging the weight left, and repeating. Eventually the car straightens out and I’m able to disengage the lockers. I then get out of 4L and the rest of the drive seemed fine.

Later that night, I went to check if I could still get into 4L and engage the lockers in the parking lot. I rolled a few feet in 4L, and then engaged the lockers and rolled a few feet, and then disengaged the lockers. Then I did a small U turn in 4L to get more space to try to get a 1-3mph roll to get out of 4L since it wasn’t easy to get it out while stopped. During the U turn, with the steering locked left there was a little bit of creaking. Got out of 4L. Everything seems okay right now, but I’m concerned.

So please bear with all of this. Experienced off roaders, what I did damage?
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You should be fine, doesn't sound any worse than what I've done on slick rock.

Stop driving on pavement in 4 low. It will bind up even unlocked.
 

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Like others have said, everything is likely fine. For future reference, even 4Hi will bind on dry pavement or other high traction surfaces. 4-Auto (if equipped) is safe for all situations, but I've even noticed slight binding while making full-lock U-turns on pavement.

Getting used to shifting on the fly can be awkward at first, but will become second nature in no time. When traversing snow covered back roads, I leave my Jeep in 4Hi, and then shift to 2Hi (or 4-Auto if equipped) as soon as I hit clear pavement.

It's best to save the lockers and 4Lo for the trails, and use 4Hi only while the roads are slick. Shift to 2Hi or 4-Auto as soon as safely possible to minimize wear on other components.
 

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Like others have said, everything is likely fine. For future reference, even 4Hi will bind on dry pavement or other high traction surfaces. 4-Auto (if equipped) is safe for all situations, but I've even noticed slight binding while making full-lock U-turns on pavement.

Getting used to shifting on the fly can be awkward at first, but will become second nature in no time. When traversing snow covered back roads, I leave my Jeep in 4Hi, and then shift to 2Hi (or 4-Auto if equipped) as soon as I hit clear pavement.

It's best to save the lockers and 4Lo for the trails, and use 4Hi only while the roads are slick. Shift to 2Hi or 4-Auto as soon as safely possible to minimize wear on other components.
392, so he doesn't actually have 2wd unless he tazered it on.
 

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392, so he doesn't actually have 2wd unless he tazered it on.
Good catch! I missed that.

To the OP, in that case, you're in 4-Auto all the time unless you manually shift out of it. It's really pretty great for just about any on-road scenarios you might find yourself in. To limit excessive wear to the clutch system inside of the transfer case, switching to 4Hi in deep snow or more severe weather conditions would be best practice.
 

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Ok, let me think about this...

When traversing snow covered back roads, I leave my Jeep in 4Hi, and then shift to 2Hi (or 4-Auto if equipped) as soon as I hit clear pavement.
I went down the bank when the snow was deep and soft.
Here's where I get confused. I infer this bank had slope. If he wanted to pull himself up and over the sloped bank and back onto the pavement, why wouldn't using 4Lo in this situation be acceptable, and be any different than if he wanted to rock-crawl his way up a similar (but snowless) slope? Other than he didn't air down and likely shouldn't?
 

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Ok, let me think about this...





Here's where I get confused. I infer this bank had slope. If he wanted to pull himself up and over the sloped bank and back onto the pavement, why wouldn't using 4Lo in this situation be acceptable, and be any different than if he wanted to rock-crawl his way up a similar (but snowless) slope? Other than he didn't air down and likely shouldn't?
Not gonna matter with no traction on all four. Without MTs, you'll have a hard time digging to dirt to get it. Only thing left is momentum.
 
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Hey all, thanks for the replies on insight. Really appreciate the help, I know how dumb this has to sound for you guys. I’ll do more reading and start off-roading the jeep more iteratively to hopefully avoid as many mishaps as I can in the future.

Things learned so far:
- Snow is deeper than I think
- Tracks in the snow doesn’t mean it’s able to be traversed
- Soft snow is worse
- Once snow gets in the tread, it’s like a slick
- 4L is for crawling
- Lockers won’t help when there isn’t any traction
- No turning with lockers, and 4L doesn’t like it either
- No 4L and definitely no lockers on pavement

Other advice?
 
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On the bright side, I was feeling really down about replacing a previous sports car with a Jeep. Wasn’t sure I made the right decision. Especially with how beautiful the roads to Tahoe were. But now I’m looking forward to exploring the off roads more, and excited to be able to hike and camp again. My previous car was lowered and I scraped coming out of driveways so I basically shelved all my outdoors gear.
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