Clutch and pressure plate issues

[R4D4R]

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Has Stellantis done anything about the exploding clutches that Ive read about? Looking to possibly buy a MT equipped JL in the not too distant future. Ive seen some recall notices about it, but has the issue been rectified at the factory?

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[mwilk012]

Nope.

 

[IanNubbit]

The recall had nothing to do with the pressure plate failures. It was related to air entering the clutch system and making the clutch slip all the time, this caused failure due to heat, the pressure plate was not the problem, so yes that has been completly repaired and newer JL/JT 6MT's have a comletly different hose that was the concern thats no much more robust.

As far as clutch goes, theres nothing inherently wrong with it, it's simply woefully underwhelming and not really bullet proof and built for the platform in my opinion. It's a bit weak. But normal daily driving as long as you aren't super crazy and overly throttle and shift happy it's perfectly fine.

With that being said the trans is honestly good enough, but I will certainly change the cltuch to a more standard single disc clutch with a heavier flywheel in the future and would never replaced a failed OEM with another OEM.

 

[JerseyMark]

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Has Stellantis done anything about the exploding clutches that Ive read about? Looking to possibly buy a MT equipped JL in the not too distant future. Ive seen some recall notices about it, but has the issue been rectified at the factory?

They have made revisions to the clutch 3 times with the most recent being for 2022 models and up I believe. They are on version "D" of the clutch now(Suffix is "AD" and was "AA" originally):

https://store.mopar.com/v-2019-jeep-wrangler--unlimited-sahara--3-6l-v6-gas/clutch--clutch

 

[IanNubbit]

They have made revisions to the clutch 3 times with the most recent being for 2022 models and up I believe. They are on version "D" of the clutch now(Suffix is "AD" and was "AA" originally):

https://store.mopar.com/v-2019-jeep-wrangler--unlimited-sahara--3-6l-v6-gas/clutch--clutch

To my knowledge these where all manufacture changes. Could be wrong. But I've removed a 18 with the original AA and a 22 JT with the AD, no noticeable changes besides serial/stamping numbers. Could be change sin compound and metals used but that would be it.

 

[JerseyMark]

To my knowledge these where all manufacture changes. Could be wrong. But I've removed a 18 with the original AA and a 22 JT with the AD, no noticeable changes besides serial/stamping numbers. Could be change sin compound and metals used but that would be it.

I was wondering if there was any noticeable difference between them, nice to have input from someone who has seen both versions.
Since you are a Jeep Tech, do you see a lot of clutch failures? My wife's 2019 has just over 40k miles and clutch seems fine, but a lot of the threads on here imply that it is a ticking timebomb.

 

[R4D4R]

Thanks dudes. I think Im leaning for the MT now. My pal has one so Ill have to take it for a spin, lord knows they dont stock them anywhere

 

[zrickety]

I've been very happy with my 2020. The clutch takes some getting used to but it's been reliable and taken my wife's abuse.

 

[IanNubbit]

I was wondering if there was any noticeable difference between them, nice to have input from someone who has seen both versions.
Since you are a Jeep Tech, do you see a lot of clutch failures? My wife's 2019 has just over 40k miles and clutch seems fine, but a lot of the threads on here imply that it is a ticking timebomb.

1 JT and 1 JL. JL was 18 so pre recall and had history of customer complaint of pedal stuck to the floor, but didnt fail til 30k miles even after worse case scenario. The JT was because he tried a recovery while pulling out in reverse and just straight up roasted the clutch as user error. Almost no real failures have happened since the recall, the people who can tell its not heavy duty enough tend to just repolace before it fails

 

[Swisskidd]

Just took delivery on my 2D Sport MT.
6 Speed was my main reason to order a new 2023.
Per dealer, currently the MT availability is limited to the Sport S and Rubicon (at least for the 2 Door variant).

 

[BuyHold]

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Has Stellantis done anything about the exploding clutches that Ive read about? Looking to possibly buy a MT equipped JL in the not too distant future. Ive seen some recall notices about it, but has the issue been rectified at the factory?

Congratulations on considering a MT Jeep. Nothing beats a manual IMO.

One observation that I believe many would agree with, and you may already be aware of, is that Rubicon owners typically seem more satisfied with their MT experience than non-Rubicon owners on account of the shorter 4.10 differential gearing. Those who option out the 4.88 gearing generally seem even more pleased with their Jeep drivetrain (though many admit that it is on the aggressive side on stock 33inch tires).

 

[TroyMclure]

Thanks dudes. I think Im leaning for the MT now. My pal has one so Ill have to take it for a spin, lord knows they dont stock them anywhere

Not trying to dissuade you, but you might want to look here:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...er-recall-burns-2018-jlu-to-the-ground.98834/

and here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/749567486306702/?mibextid=zGKedc

Or search for the several threads with a similar theme.

Several people had both clutch recalls done, and still had the pressure plate act like a grenade, causing catastrophic damage.

 

[TroyMclure]

The recall had nothing to do with the pressure plate failures. It was related to air entering the clutch system and making the clutch slip all the time, this caused failure due to heat, the pressure plate was not the problem, so yes that has been completly repaired and newer JL/JT 6MT's have a comletly different hose that was the concern thats no much more robust.

As far as clutch goes, theres nothing inherently wrong with it, it's simply woefully underwhelming and not really bullet proof and built for the platform in my opinion. It's a bit weak. But normal daily driving as long as you aren't super crazy and overly throttle and shift happy it's perfectly fine.

With that being said the trans is honestly good enough, but I will certainly change the cltuch to a more standard single disc clutch with a heavier flywheel in the future and would never replaced a failed OEM with another OEM.

Not sure how you can say this. The recalls had everything to do with the pressure plate failures. And the air entering the clutch system idea was apparently a bad guess by Stellantis - otherwise they wouldn't have issued a second recall, a software change to lower engine power if the clutch gets too hot.

Several people had both recalls done, and still had the pressure plate fracture. There is a facebook group about it:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/749567486306702/?mibextid=zGKedc

So it doesn't sound like Stellantis has really addressed the problem, let alone admit there is one.

 

[Industrialwrench]

I love mine with the 4.88s, it’s a wheeling popping beast. Clutch works perfectly. I have zero problems telling when it engages. I honestly can’t understand everyone complaints. I guess the sports with fuel efficient gears would make it feel extra slow, but it’s still more powerful than it’s predecessors. So I’m still at a loss for all the complaints.

 

[Deleted member 59498]

Nothing wrong with the manual. Everything has problems at some point, look at all the 2.0 recalls and even the diesel fuel pumps. When I had the manual it ran just fine never a problem with it.

Since the recall was done on the one that burned was it even proven it was the clutch and not something else?

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