Centerforce Clutch Updates.

[word302]

But I can all but guarantee this will be the last Wrangler model you can get with 3 pedals so keep it forever and just fix what needs fixin'!!!

That’s what they said about the JK.

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[OBJLU]

Cheaped out? I guarantee the clutch they used is way more expensive than most. It works great for all but a minuscule percentage. Kind of like every other part on a vehicle.

It works until it doesn’t and then it’s a catastrophic failure not like any other street driven vehicle.

Look at my warrant replacement, it SEEMED fine, scoring and glazing are also signs over over heating,

 

[Cutterone]

Cheaped out? I guarantee the clutch they used is way more expensive than most. It works great for all but a minuscule percentage. Kind of like every other part on a vehicle.

Well in their quest to make the clutch feel lighter/easier, they went with the dual disc design, just wish they stuck to a stout traditional clutch. The few of us that still desire a stick want to feel the tranny, not isolate from it.

 

[Cutterone]

That’s what they said about the JK.

Well the challenger/charger are going all electric next year which I think is a horrible decision. They already dropped the stick from the Sahara and now with clutch issues and at least hybrid electrification all but guaranteed in the next gen model, I would be shocked if the stick stays, hope your right and I 'm wrong...

 

[LLRubylady]

Well the challenger/charger are going all electric next year which I think is a horrible decision. They already dropped the stick from the Sahara and now with clutch issues and at least hybrid electrification all but guaranteed in the next gen model, I would be shocked if the stick stays, hope your right and I 'm wrong...

I think you could be right. It is only a matter of time before they kill the clutch, but you never know since many Jeepers love the stick. Jeeps will be one of the last vehicles left with a stick. At least in the United States.
But this clutch is a literal POS.

 

[word302]

It works until it doesn’t and then it’s a catastrophic failure not like any other street driven vehicle.

Look at my warrant replacement, it SEEMED fine, scoring and glazing are also signs over over heating,

That looks like exactly what happens with an improperly bleed clutch. The clutch is not the problem, the hydraulic system and poor bleeding is the problem. I get it, I would never replace this clutch with the same thing from the factory, but most will never have to replace it.

 

[OBJLU]

That looks like exactly what happens with an improperly bleed clutch. The clutch is not the problem, the hydraulic system and poor bleeding is the problem. I get it, I would never replace this clutch with the same thing from the factory, but most will never have to replace it.

No bubbles I could see, clutch always engaged, no slipping etc no way to tell this was happening unless a tear down.

 

[word302]

Well in their quest to make the clutch feel lighter/easier, they went with the dual disc design, just wish they stuck to a stout traditional clutch. The few of us that still desire a stick want to feel the tranny, not isolate from it.

Mine feels great. Been driving manuals for 35 years. 25 of those off-road.

 

[word302]

I think you could be right. It is only a matter of time before they kill the clutch, but you never know since many Jeepers love the stick. Jeeps will be one of the last vehicles left with a stick. At least in the United States.
But this clutch is a literal POS.

The funny thing is if you’d stop reading about it and just go enjoy it you’d never have a single issue with your clutch.

 

[word302]

No bubbles I could see, clutch always engaged, no slipping etc no way to tell this was happening unless a tear down.

Yeah I don’t know what causes it to be so difficult to bleed, buts it’s a pain in the ass to get right.

 

[OBJLU]

Yeah I don’t know what causes it to be so difficult to bleed, buts it’s a pain in the ass to get right.

It is, my installer did the procedure 3 times when he installed the centerforce just to be sure.

 

[BuyHold]

Well the challenger/charger are going all electric next year which I think is a horrible decision. They already dropped the stick from the Sahara and now with clutch issues and at least hybrid electrification all but guaranteed in the next gen model, I would be shocked if the stick stays, hope your right and I 'm wrong...

While hybrid vehicles will still have automatic transmissions, even those will likely go the way of the dinosaur in fully electric vehicles. Tesla, Lucid, Rivian: to best of my knowledge none of these have transmissions (in classical sense with torque converters or clutches) because Electric Motors don't need to slip from wheels and because they generate torque immediately.

 

[LLRubylady]

While hybrid vehicles will still have automatic transmissions, even those will likely go the way of the dinosaur in fully electric vehicles. Tesla, Lucid, Rivian: to best of my knowledge none of these have transmissions (in classical sense with torque converters or clutches) because Electric Motors don't need to slip from wheels and because they generate torque immediately.

I hate the idea of all electric

 

[BuyHold]

I hate the idea of all electric

I am surprised that Automatic transmission lovers aren't banging their fists on the table demanding electrical vehicles sooner. If those people don't want to shift themselves, what could be even more exciting for them than knowing that their future electric vehicle won't even have the shift itself since it won't have a transmission at all. "So smooth"

 

[word302]

It is, my installer did the procedure 3 times when he installed the centerforce just to be sure.

Yup, when everyone went into a panic I decided to bleed my own. It wasn’t fun.

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