BSG 48V battery replacement cost?

[NavyVet1959]

Just for comparison , Any idea how much the secondary battery for the 3.6 ESS without BSG is?

It looks like it's about the same as the battery on my Harley, so you can probably get it for around $90-110, IIRC.

Unless you are buying it from the dealership and then it'll probably be $300 + $200 installation...

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[Jeepsterfreak]

Just for comparison , Any idea how much the secondary battery for the 3.6 ESS without BSG is?

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$134

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

Jeepsterfreak, that is the sort of thing that "freaks" me out! I am very price conscious when buying things, and not just taking into account the initial price. Having to shell out over $1000 for a replacement battery would make my blood boil. (Probably not an issue for people who don't keep vehicles all that long.) But since generally I hang onto vehicles like grim death and also buy older vehicles, unless battery prices go down drastically in the next 5 or so years, owners or buyers of used Wranglers could be in for some pain when some of these expensive components start failing.

I think the same way. When I purchased my 2017 Accord, the sales person was trying to upsell me on the Sport model with 19” wheels 40 series tires. I went in to purchase the base LX model with 16” wheels. I said those 19” wheels look nice but it will cost a small fortune to replace those tires after 30k-40k miles. She looked at me like I was crazy because I would keep the car long enough to replace the tires. Most people trade in or lease so never have to think about things like that.
I’m very happy with my 16” wheels. The tires will be cheaper to replace, they ride smoother than 19” and get better mpg plus no one would want to steal them.

 

[NavyVet1959]

I think the same way. When I purchased my 2017 Accord, the sales person was trying to upsell me on the Sport model with 19” wheels 40 series tires. I went in to purchase the base LX model with 16” wheels. I said those 19” wheels look nice but it will cost a small fortune to replace those tires after 30k-40k miles. She looked at me like I was crazy because I would keep the car long enough to replace the tires. Most people trade in or lease so never have to think about things like that.
I’m very happy with my 16” wheels. The tires will be cheaper to replace, they ride smoother than 19” and get better mpg plus no one would want to steal them.

And with the 19" wheels, they are not just low profile tires, but the rim probably sticks out further than the tire, so if you get too close to a curb, instead of a scuff mark on the tire that will disappear, you have a nasty gash on the aluminum rims.

BTW, have you noticed how big the Accords have gotten lately? The Civics are the size the Accords used to be and the Accords look like they are trying to be in the same size class as 1991 "beached whale" Chevy Caprice cars.

 

[XJ-99]

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/3-6l-ess-battery-diagram.14401/page-5

Just a FYI, see post #64.

 

[spurly]

Although I don't like the idea of having the BSG or the 48v battery, I started giving it some thought. If the 48v battery does indeed flat line after 5 years, or even 10 years, would you really need to replace it? All it does it power the BSG and in turn the BSG charges the battery. (That we know of) If the battery goes dead.... what will really happen? My guess is nothing, except the ESS might be affected. But the computer should be able to monitor the voltage of the 48v system and if it is to low for the BSG to restart the engine, then the engine may never shut off at a stop again. Win/win?

 

[NavyVet1959]

Although I don't like the idea of having the BSG or the 48v battery, I started giving it some thought. If the 48v battery does indeed flat line after 5 years, or even 10 years, would you really need to replace it? All it does it power the BSG and in turn the BSG charges the battery. (That we know of) If the battery goes dead.... what will really happen? My guess is nothing, except the ESS might be affected. But the computer should be able to monitor the voltage of the 48v system and if it is to low for the BSG to restart the engine, then the engine may never shut off at a stop again. Win/win?

Assuming the kiddie engineers who designed the thing didn't make it so that if a problem occurs, then they just stop the vehicle until it gets serviced by the *dealer*.

 

[Solidaxle]

If BSG changes the Emissions in anyway it will have to be maintained and working properly for the life of the vehicle. At least for sure in California and any other state that does smog inspection’s.

 

[NavyVet1959]

If BSG changes the Emissions in anyway it will have to be maintained and working properly for the life of the vehicle. At least for sure in California and any other state that does smog inspection’s.

And if it throws a check engine light, that will prevent you from getting an inspection sticker in a lot of places.

I had that happen on my Ram 1500 awhile back... I traced down the problem to a bad *sensor* on the brake reservoir. It was reporting a low brake fluid level because the sensor was bad. It was not possible to replace the sensor due to it being molded into the brake reservoir. If I had been able to replace just the sensor, it would have been around $8-10. Instead, I was looking at around $100-150, IIRC. So, I figured out that the vehicle was expecting the sensor to return a certain electrical resistance and just put an appropriately sized resistor across the wires in the electrical connector that hooked to the sensor and left it unplugged. But then again, I'm an old fart and I am so highly skilled that I can open the hood of my vehicle and *look* at the level of the brake fluid in the reservoir to see if it is between the two lines. I guess they are making cars for people who can't seem to figure out how to do that these days.

 

[smithrd65]

After the warranty is up, even minor repairs will be ridiculously overpriced at the stealerships...

I agree fully dealer repairs will be costly. Regearing warranty gone. I Spoke to the dealer today to ask a few minor questions over the phone if you have the Tazer
Or any other gadget they will not tell you but will flag your vehicle in the system and yes they have the right to say it caused certain warranty to violations.
A costly mistake your choice.

 

[viper88]

If BSG changes the Emissions in anyway it will have to be maintained and working properly for the life of the vehicle. At least for sure in California and any other state that does smog inspection’s.

California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, or Maine, adapted "California Emissions Rules." In those states e-Torque buyers might get a little extra warranty on the battery if it's part of the emissions system. I think 10 years / 100K under the CA emissions rule? Don't quote me though. I think that's the case for a prius battery. The prius battery is considered part of the emissions. I think the prius battery warranty is 10 years / 100K miles in certain states because of that. I think it's 8 years / 100K in other states which seems to be the industry norm for hybrid components.

 

[viper88]

Anyone buying e-Torque won't have to worry about the 48V battery cost for 8 years / 80K miles. I finally was able to look up the factory warranty for the 2.0T and e-Torque components. The generator-starter, 48v battery, PCM, and CAT are considered emissions components. They are warrantied for 8 years / 80K miles under the federal emission warranty.

 

[Macs79]

Anyone buying e-Torque won't have to worry about the 48V battery cost for 8 years / 80K miles. I finally was able to look up the factory warranty for the 2.0T and e-Torque components. The generator-starter, 48v battery, PCM, and CAT are considered emissions components. They are warrantied for 8 years / 80K miles under the federal emission warranty.

Absolutely correct!

Also, at the end of the day its just a 48v battery that you can find online anywhere relatively cheap. I haven't been able to find the specs, but by the size its going to be low amperage. Appears to be the same size as an ebike battery......
Worst case, you would have to convert the connectors.

Soon as specs are discovered there will be 100 Chinese companies selling them on ebay.

BTW - Mopar has them listed for $1000 now

 

[Macs79]

Just stumbled on an article that says its 48v at 430wh or 9ah

Still would need better specs but sounds like i gave it too much credit comparing it to an ebike battery.

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