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But it somehow doesn’t knock out the power to radio stations??
They have been around longer and understand the concept of "disaster preparedness".

Also, if they do get some damage, there's not as much to fix compared to all the cellular network towers that are around. They basically have a microwave antenna at their main office where anything the DJs / announcers say whatever they need to say / play and then it gets transmitted to a microwave receiver antenna at the broadcast tower. The broadcast tower might be 2000 ft tall and as long as it doesn't get blown down or major physical damage, the worst that could happen is that the microwave receiver antenna could get out of alignment. If that happens, then someone climbs the tower and adjusts it. These towers tend to not be all that quick to replace, so they probably get a bit over-engineered with respect to wind resistance. The transmitter towers also probably have backup generators in case the main power to the transmitter is out. With transmitter powers of 50KW or so, this is not your typical home generator. :)

During Hurricane Ike a few years back, my area was without power for a week or so. Comcrap did not understand disaster preparedness and there was no internet service. Landline phones would still work because the phone company understood the concept of disaster preparedness. I backfed my house with a generator and had 55g drums of fuel on hand along with natural gas supply for hot water and cooking, so I was prepared. I was particularly pissed off at Comcrap for not being prepared and thus not allowing me to have internet service since I had power thanks to my generator. I also had satellite TV, so I would not have had to rely on Comcrap's cable TV (which was probably also out). I canceled my cable modem Comcrap service right after that and went with DSL. I figured that since it was based on the phone lines, they might just have heard of the term "disaster preparedness" before.
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They have been around longer and understand the concept of "disaster preparedness".

Also, if they do get some damage, there's not as much to fix compared to all the cellular network towers that are around. They basically have a microwave antenna at their main office where anything the DJs / announcers say whatever they need to say / play and then it gets transmitted to a microwave receiver antenna at the broadcast tower. The broadcast tower might be 2000 ft tall and as long as it doesn't get blown down or major physical damage, the worst that could happen is that the microwave receiver antenna could get out of alignment. If that happens, then someone climbs the tower and adjusts it. These towers tend to not be all that quick to replace, so they probably get a bit over-engineered with respect to wind resistance. The transmitter towers also probably have backup generators in case the main power to the transmitter is out. With transmitter powers of 50KW or so, this is not your typical home generator. :)

During Hurricane Ike a few years back, my area was without power for a week or so. Comcrap did not understand disaster preparedness and there was no internet service. Landline phones would still work because the phone company understood the concept of disaster preparedness. I backfed my house with a generator and had 55g drums of fuel on hand along with natural gas supply for hot water and cooking, so I was prepared. I was particularly pissed off at Comcrap for not being prepared and thus not allowing me to have internet service since I had power thanks to my generator. I also had satellite TV, so I would not have had to rely on Comcrap's cable TV (which was probably also out). I canceled my cable modem Comcrap service right after that and went with DSL. I figured that since it was based on the phone lines, they might just have heard of the term "disaster preparedness" before.
Aren’t we talking about mobile phone, rather than internet and landlines? But hey, if you’ve figured out how to string a landline to your Jeep, it might be relevant..... ;)
 

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Aren’t we talking about mobile phone, rather than internet and landlines? But hey, if you’ve figured out how to string a landline to your Jeep, it might be relevant..... ;)
Hey, I'm old school... I want 10BASE2 in my Jeep... :)

I remember a few years before Ike, we had Rita headed here... Everyone was evacuating... I didn't, but I was watching the mess on the news... Traffic was at a standstill for over a hundred miles, IIRC... The cell phone towers were overwhelmed with people trying to call other people and most calls could not go through. Some people eventually realized that SMS messages had a better chance of getting out though.
 

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But it somehow doesn’t knock out the power to radio stations??
Radio stations are tied into the main power grid so when the city has power back, so does the radio station. Towers typically have a single power line run miles from the main road. Also, some radio stations have back up generators. Towers typically don’t. Also, towers are much further from other structures and improved roads so any generators would soon run out of fuel. Not to mention they are more prone to be affected by wildfires. High winds also blow their antennnas out of alignment. Finally, data is typically maxed out after a disaster and you get no service because everyone is trying to reach someone.

If you have ever been in a large scale natural disaster you have seen at least some of what I listed above. Try to have at least one backup to every piece of infrastructure you rely on, because it will fail.
 

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Radio stations are tied into the main power grid so when the city has power back, so does the radio station. Towers typically have a single power line run miles from the main road. Also, some radio stations have back up generators. Towers typically don’t. Also, towers are much further from other structures and improved roads so any generators would soon run out of fuel. Not to mention they are more prone to be affected by wildfires. High winds also blow their antennnas out of alignment. Finally, data is typically maxed out after a disaster and you get no service because everyone is trying to reach someone.

If you have ever been in a large scale natural disaster you have seen at least some of what I listed above. Try to have at least one backup to every piece of infrastructure you rely on, because it will fail.
This is where I remember that this is a debate about an antenna, acknowledge a number of gross inaccuracies in your comments, and move on....
 

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Sometimes, shit happens... :(

 

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Could a person tap into the disconnected antenna hookup or the rear of the infotainment module and run a wire within his/her Jeep? Maybe have it tucked someplace inconspicuous so that it’s still seeing daylight but is unobtrusive? Personally, I’m fine with the look of the antenna—kinda retro—but maybe there’s a solution for those owners who dislike the antenna but would still like/benefit from am/fm reception? Here’s a screenshot of a quick amazon search.

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Some car manufacturers over the years have put antennas embedded in the windshield glass. Of course, this makes the glass more expensive when you need to replace it. Considering how some people claim that the Wrangler's windshield is a rock magnet and how many times they've had to replace their windshield, maybe that would not be a good idea for a Wrangler. :)

Personally, I prefer a simple metal rod type antenna over any of the retractable type, but I also use it as a height gauge when I'm going into low garages and such. My pickup was even taller and I routinely looked at the antenna when going into an unfamiliar parking garage.
 

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That looks clean. Very nice. All I listen to is FM or Spotify. XM radio anymore seems to have more commercials than local stations.
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