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That takes the price up and scares people off. They go cheap instead and are disappointed. Often chasing problems and throwing money at it.

They end up spending more money than the quality stuff would of cost To start with.
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I did exactly the same thing, I have never been in a Jeep until my order came in. Bought the snazzberry colour sight unseen and no regrets what so ever. I only bought it so I could use it as a toad behind the RV. At 3k miles I did a Jeep adventure academy on a whim and was hooked. Now I tow it every weekend I have a chance to take it off pavement. I only bought a Rubicon because of its resale value and now it will never be sold. The squirrely steering though is totally unexpected coming from a ford PHEV.
My only regret is that I got the Sport S and not the Rubicon. I was afraid to spend the extra 6-10,000 for the Rubicon but now I realize that I should have. I love my baby but wish now that I had splurged on the Rubicon
 

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So, the woman (mid 40’s, RN) who lives down the road traded her Range Rover on a new JLU with a dealer installed lift and very aggressive 35’s a couple weeks ago. She bought it OFF the floor, without even driving it?. Anyway I’m out at the mailbox and she’s driving by and stops to talk. She says “ I know you’ve had Jeeps for a long time, do you like the way they drive?”. I say “ Yeah, I’ve driven them for years. I like them a lot because of their go anywhere ability and how easy they are to drive”. She then chimes up with “ I love the way they look, but mine drives awful, it’s noisy inside, its hard to hold in the lane, and is just a lot of work to drive”. I explained that Jeeps are different, that they’re not for everybody. I let her take the JL down the road for a drive and she came back and says “yours is so much quieter than mine, and doesn’t wander all over the road, how come”? We then had the discussion about aggressive tires and road noise and different heights of center of gravity. Long story short, this lady bought it because it looks good, with no idea of how it would drive, I really think she’d have been happy with a stock JLU Sahara, as it is, I suspect she’ll be trading vehicles and her “new“ Jeep will wind up on a used lot before long. I just can’t understand why anyone would buy a new vehicle, esp one very different from anything they’ve ever owned, without at least Driving it first. Makes no sense to me..
I agree. I came from a sports car…and the occasional driving our family suv. I realized I needed something myself for my young fam (sports car wasn’t cutting it) and I’ve always admired Jeeps from afar.

so I went to the dealer and asked for a test drive, well that was disappointing….He gave me a total of 5 min with it (was also almost on empty) but right off the bat, you can see how different it was…but I LIKED it nonetheless

so I decided that I need to really drive one, so I rented one for the weekend. That Saturday morning I went to pick it up. (was a granite Sahara) about 2 min in I realized I no longer LIKED it……….I LOVED it!

The rest was history

it’s not for everyone….but it is for me, and now I will always have one!
 

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My only regret is that I got the Sport S and not the Rubicon. I was afraid to spend the extra 6-10,000 for the Rubicon but now I realize that I should have. I love my baby but wish now that I had splurged on the Rubicon
+/-$10K is a big Ask, so it's easy to understand why the Rube's sticker price might have given you pause. That said, I'd agree that it's also easy to spend big funds when uparmoring a Sport to give it proper chops. This can go both ways.
 

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I work on cars and thus drive lots of Jeeps. In the end, the pickup and 4 door ride fine when you have it bone stock and typically the cheapest model. I find that very few people off road their Jeep even though they all sorts of doo dads to them. It's just like with Porsches. Most buy a brand new 992 GT3 and it's a garage queen. A few actually take them to the track and beat the pulp out of theirs. No different with the Corvette crowd. People buy into the look and marketing.
 

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I always tell prospective Wrangler buyers to buy one for fun, nothing else, don’t try and convince yourself it’s a practical vehicle because if you do, you’ll be disappointed.
I don't know. Considering all the rear wheel drive Muscle cars I've owned in the Northeast I think my 2022 4 door 4wd Jeep when it arrives will be one of the more practical vehicles I've owned. Besides the pickup trucks.
 

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My 2021 Willys 2 door is my third and last Wrangler. My only regret is the mud tires. I intend to do just the opposite of what most do.I will modify mine to perform better on the road, and improve the daily driver aspect of it. When I wear the tires out, I plan on buying quality all-season tires,better shocks,and a better steering stabilizer. Then...it will be perfect for ME....lol
 

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+/-$10K is a big Ask, so it's easy to understand why the Rube's sticker price might have given you pause. That said, I'd agree that it's also easy to spend big funds when uparmoring a Sport to give it proper chops. This can go both ways.
True, but I withdrew the money from my accounts and paid for it in full. It wouldn't hurt to go an extra 6-10 to get the Rubicon especially considering that Rubicons are a bit more pricey now than they were in 2020. I have Rubicon envy now when I'm driving around and see one and start kicking myself ?
 

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Everyone who drives my lifted jeeps (women included) wants one just like it. Good tires and a quality lift, adjusted properly, makes all the difference. That takes the price up and scares people off. They go cheap instead and are disappointed. Often chasing problems and throwing money at it. They end up spending more money than the quality stuff would of cost To start with.
If you are going to spend money on something. Spend the money on doing it right in the first place. Being cheap ends up costing you more than the quality parts would have. So I'm typically a cheap ass when it comes to most things, but on my car...it gets the best parts. :)
 

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I agree. I came from a sports car…and the occasional driving our family suv. I realized I needed something myself for my young fam (sports car wasn’t cutting it) and I’ve always admired Jeeps from afar.

so I went to the dealer and asked for a test drive, well that was disappointing….He gave me a total of 5 min with it (was also almost on empty) but right off the bat, you can see how different it was…but I LIKED it nonetheless

so I decided that I need to really drive one, so I rented one for the weekend. That Saturday morning I went to pick it up. (was a granite Sahara) about 2 min in I realized I no longer LIKED it……….I LOVED it!

The rest was history

it’s not for everyone….but it is for me, and now I will always have one!
Wise man. No reason for anyone new NOT to follow this approach. A new rig is a young ton of money. Renting for a few days is peanuts if it keeps you from making a multi thousand dollar mistake. You either love ‘em or hate ‘em-I don’t think there’s a lot of middle ground. Congrats on your Jeep!
 
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My 2021 Willys 2 door is my third and last Wrangler. My only regret is the mud tires. I intend to do just the opposite of what most do.I will modify mine to perform better on the road, and improve the daily driver aspect of it. When I wear the tires out, I plan on buying quality all-season tires,better shocks,and a better steering stabilizer. Then...it will be perfect for ME....lol
And THAT is the whole point. Your Jeep should fit YOUR needs, not what the “cool kids” seem to think is vital or critical. Rubicons are incredibly capable machines.FAR more capable that all but the most extreme off road dudes will EVER need, ditto for lift kits, monster tires, etc. they have their place, but VERY few folks actually “need” ’em.
 
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True, but I withdrew the money from my accounts and paid for it in full. It wouldn't hurt to go an extra 6-10 to get the Rubicon especially considering that Rubicons are a bit more pricey now than they were in 2020. I have Rubicon envy now when I'm driving around and see one and start kicking myself ?
Don't regret paying cash for your Sport S. :like: Not having an auto loan is better than having any loan, no matter how allegedly attractive the terms of the latter might be.

Now every penny of what would have gone toward a car payment can be directed toward building your Wrangler on your time, using your parts choices. You're actually well-positioned here.

And everything is more expensive these days, unfortunately.
 
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Don't regret paying cash for your Sport S. :like: Not having an auto loan is better than having any loan, no matter how allegedly attractive the terms of the latter might be.

Now every penny of what would have gone toward a car payment can be directed toward building your Wrangler on your time, using your parts choices. You're actually well-positioned here.

And everything is more expensive these days, unfortunately.
True this! Plus unless you are Seriously into extreme off road, a Rubi would likely be overkill anyway?
 

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Only the owner can determine if their rig is overkill, depending on what they end up taking it into. If you wanted to keep it light on the pocket book and bought a sport, excellent, if you saved some cash and went for a little more capability out of the box, also excellent. It's always better to have the tools and not need them than need the tools and not have them in my experience. If I encounter more shitty terrain (on my own terms this time lol) I will be glad I have the rubi. I can say for sure that I won't mind sleeping in this thing for extended periods of time unlike my other rigs. YMMV.

I do plan to replace the sway bars with Antirocks down the road, so maybe there's one tool I didn't necessarily care if I had or not.
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