LKG
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I did for about the first 2 years I had my Dodge diesel. That was 20 years and almost 300K miles ago. I should probably start doing that again.
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Me, I have a 6 speed so, I'm always manually shifting. I keep an eye on oil temp no matter how cold it is outside. Once the oil hits 170 degrees, I let err rip if I feel like banging the gears.
That's good to know about the engine damage happening at the time interval. Is it bad to let it idle until operating temperature or its just something that you don't do personally?Most of the engines wear will be from the first 10-15 minutes after every cold start because the oil is too thick to travel and properly coat the whole engine. When I worked at Cummins, they had tests showing as much as 80% of wear over an engine's lifetime, came from this crucial period of time.
Because of this, I like to keep my rpms as low as possible until the engine oil is at least 175F, however, I am not going to let it sit and idle for 15 minutes every time I start it from a cold start. I find that the stock trans tuning holds 2nd and 3rd gear way to long for a diesel, getting the rpms well past 2,000 even with normal acceleration which makes me cringe on cold oil.
To keep this from happening, I will manually shift as soon as the trans will let me, which is generally slightly above 1,500 rpm, to keep rpms as low as possible. After the oil gets past 175F, then I put it in auto.
Am I the only one that does this?
This is what is called mechanical sympathy and you have it.Most of the engines wear will be from the first 10-15 minutes after every cold start because the oil is too thick to travel and properly coat the whole engine. When I worked at Cummins, they had tests showing as much as 80% of wear over an engine's lifetime, came from this crucial period of time.
Because of this, I like to keep my rpms as low as possible until the engine oil is at least 175F, however, I am not going to let it sit and idle for 15 minutes every time I start it from a cold start. I find that the stock trans tuning holds 2nd and 3rd gear way to long for a diesel, getting the rpms well past 2,000 even with normal acceleration which makes me cringe on cold oil.
To keep this from happening, I will manually shift as soon as the trans will let me, which is generally slightly above 1,500 rpm, to keep rpms as low as possible. After the oil gets past 175F, then I put it in auto.
Am I the only one that does this?
This is exactly why I said I am not going to let it sit and idle in my initial post We did some similar tests when i was at Cummins and is why they always recommended shorter oil change intervals than standard for duty cycles with a lot of idle time or short trips.This should explain the guesswork. Thoroughly tested cold start warm up versus start and drive.