Advice on ordering manual

[cycler]

4.10 based on no towing, no plans on upgrading wheel/tire size, and tend to keep your vehicles stock.

I upgraded my Willys from 3.45 to 4.10's for the same reasons you're questioning staying there. It's the sweet spot for stock Jeeps.

I'd also recommend getting the manual if you want the manual.

Screw the automatic transmission. Manuals will soon be phased out so get the manual while you still can.

I'd also recommend replacing the stock clutch with an Advanced Clutch Technologies unit ASAP. It'll be a better driving experience but you need to plan for the imediate upgrade for your new Jeep. Price of doing business.

Im going to be ordering a 4 door 6spd in the next week or two. I read a few posts that said Jeep was replacing the recall clutches with the Luk clutch. And will use them in the 2024's as well. But who knows if thats true or not. Many automakers use Luk. Im debating whether to replace the Luk as well before it leaves with dealership with an aftermarket clutch and flywheel. Any advice on whether to go that route? Or would the Luk be a good step for Jeep?

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[Vatdevil]

4.88 first gear is close to useless on street with 33s. Off road it’s super crawl gear.

 

[Old Jeeper]

Hi folks.

Thinking about ordering a 2-door manual Rubi (have test driven both…auto 2.0 and the 6-spd 3.6). I like the way it drives (clutch engagement reminds me my gt350 with that weird dual spring clutch helper)

I read a lot of comments about how much better the Rubi is heard for the manual (as opposed to other trims). Question is: Do I choose 4:1 or go 4:88? I don’t plan on doing any towing and right now have no plans on upgrading wheel/tire size. I tend to keep my vehicles stock.

This will be my daily.

My first question is: How long you been driving manuals?

Unless you are hitting the 6+ trails in Moab on a regular basis 4:10 will work fine, but if you are a RED LIGHT bandit the 4:88 will make you smile and if you get some bigger tires even if they are just 35s the 4:88s would be my choice./


I run 4:88 on my 2023/2024 JLR & JlR-X, I would be driving a manual were it not for my wife who like to drive my jeep from time to time. I have been driving manuals since learning to on a Ford 9 N tractor in 1962. Finally in 2010 I was forced into Autos when I bought my first Superduty F 350 truck, Auto only. Heck my 2 John Deeres are Auto only.

Manuals require ou drive using both hands and both feet al about the same time. Auto only need 1 hand and 1 foot.

Todays autos are far superior to anything made prior to about 2010 when 6 sp, then 8 sp and now my F 450 has a 10 Trans and its the best transmission I have ever driven.

 

[BeachNJeep]

If the manual is what you want, get it. I had an April build 2018 JLU sport S. I put over 50k miles in 3 years with absolutely no problems or issues (with the transmission or clutch, AC and electrical were another thing entirely).

I lifted it and put 35's. The stock 3.71 gearing sucked and had I kept it longer, would have put 4.88's. With the bigger tires, it was a dog and I really had to work to keep it in the rev band (but it was fun!).

I sold it (which I regret) to get a 6 passenger RAM 1500 so my step daughter could go camping with us (I have 3 boys plus her and my wife). In the end, my daughter cried on the first camping trip and vowed never to go camping again. So I sold the RAM and got another Jeep. This time, my wife wanted in on the action (she can drive a stick but prefers not to and wanted to daily drive it if needed). So we got a '23 JLUR 4xe.

If it was my sole choice, I would have gotten another stick. But I was glad I finally got my Rubi and even happier my wife likes driving the Jeep now, so I settled for the auto. But my preference will always be the manual...

 

[Da Capt]

I didn't know you could do 4.88 on the two door. But might as well go with that if you ever plan on adding larger tires or doing some more aggressive off-road / rocks / hills.

If you're not dead set on a manual. I would advise against it. You will be SOL and ignored by Jeep when you run into issues with the manual transmission / clutch. They have had recall after recall and Jeep won't fix the actual problem. It can overheat and blow / cause a fire.

And that if they still have the MT restrictions on it. Some guys here been waiting many months and not even built. I ya dooansnin getting a base MT but one thing after another then the turbo was on hold except for 4XE I got lucky and found one on a lot not far from my house go figure.

 

[Ratbert]

Just make sure to check out the spreadsheet in my sig before buying one.

 

[Melchior]

Just make sure to check out the spreadsheet in my sig before buying one.

Ratbert, absolutely! Thanks to your list, I’ve been in talks with one those dealers listed. Thanks, brotha! I owe ya one! Cheers!

 

[toothirtyj]

Im debating whether to replace the Luk as well before it leaves with dealership with an aftermarket clutch and flywheel. Any advice on whether to go that route? Or would the Luk be a good step for Jeep?

If LUK is simply manufacturing the same problematic self adjusting pressure plate, dual disk clutch that is currently made by someone else, I'm not sure if it would be a good step.

However, I can attest that replacing the OEM setup with a single disk, traditional pressure plate, made by ACT (modeled after the OEM Jeep JK clutch) makes the JL much more driveable. I like ACT out of all the aftermarket makers the most because it does not require messing with the OEM JL hydraulic system to achieve the improved driveability.

Knowing what I know now, if I bought a new 6MT JL tomorrow, I would spend the money on an ACT clutch for it's benefits right off the bat. Not unlike those who spend thousands on tires, wheels, suspension lifts, winches, etc.

 

[Chris D]

My 2019 JLUR 6sp, replaced cluthc with Centerforce one, a world of difference. Sized up to 35's on the 4:10 gears and it drives great. Filled it with stuff and went on a 2500 mile road trip, going up steep mountains required a drop in gears, just like an afulmatic would do. Either I am underloaded or don't expect sports car response, the set up works great off road with the 4:1 transfer case no issues at all.

 

[cycler]

If LUK is simply manufacturing the same problematic self adjusting pressure plate, dual disk clutch that is currently made by someone else, I'm not sure if it would be a good step.

However, I can attest that replacing the OEM setup with a single disk, traditional pressure plate, made by ACT (modeled after the OEM Jeep JK clutch) makes the JL much more driveable. I like ACT out of all the aftermarket makers the most because it does not require messing with the OEM JL hydraulic system to achieve the improved driveability.

Knowing what I know now, if I bought a new 6MT JL tomorrow, I would spend the money on an ACT clutch for it's benefits right off the bat. Not unlike those who spend thousands on tires, wheels, suspension lifts, winches, etc.

From what I read Luk already had a clutch kit and flywheel for the Jeep JL before the recall. Thats what Jeep "is said" to be installing. I looked into the luk and havent read any poor reviews. I guess thats a plus. In comparison tests the Luk was rated as best value and overall good performance for the Jeep. The negative is the plastic throw out bearing. I believe the Luk clutch kit with flywheel retails for maybe $349? Im sure thats not the price Jeep will pay if they are switching over.

 

[leeshuming]

I have a 4xe Rubicon, running teraflex suspensions and 37s and have even completed the Rubicon Trail earlier in July. While I love my 4xe, I really missed driving a manual.

I honestly believe that the manual transmission will be phased out soon, given that the world government is pushing these zev rules and regulations and how Jeep screwed up in the JL's clutch problems. i hardly see why Jeep would continue to make the manual transmission in the next generation.

Still, we have some more years before either they annouce the discontinuation of manual transmission, or the next new wranglers.

Regardless, my next Jeep would definitely be a 2dr, manual, Rubicon, 4.88s, and half doors..

 

[cripton805]

I have a 4xe Rubicon, running teraflex suspensions and 37s and have even completed the Rubicon Trail earlier in July. While I love my 4xe, I really missed driving a manual.

I honestly believe that the manual transmission will be phased out soon, given that the world government is pushing these zev rules and regulations and how Jeep screwed up in the JL's clutch problems. i hardly see why Jeep would continue to make the manual transmission in the next generation.

Still, we have some more years before either they annouce the discontinuation of manual transmission, or the next new wranglers.

Regardless, my next Jeep would definitely be a 2dr, manual, Rubicon, 4.88s, and half doors..

I feel the same way. I prefer manual transmissions on pretty much all of my cars. A majority of the 25+ vehicles I've owned. We're manual transmissions.

It's a shame that Jeep has struggled to give us reliability. Especially since this might be the last Jeep to have it. And probably void your warranty if you replace anything with aftermarket parts. I do think the 8 speed is a great transmission though for being an automatic. So, I'm glad for that.

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