About AI

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I'm thinking about a question.

Many people are pessimistic about AI and the future, believing that AI will one day become the new master of the earth and humans will be destroyed.

But why does AI have to exterminate humans? If humans need sunlight, water, air, and food to survive, does AI need these things? Does it need to steal them?

Is it possible that AI needs something that does not conflict with humans, or that it actually does not care about the earth at all? It is like a beggar who thinks that the rich will take away his begging bowl, but in fact the rich do not need it at all.

Some people would use the analogy of humans replacing dinosaurs to illustrate AI replacing humans, but humans and dinosaurs need basically the same things to survive. AI currently needs to live in servers built by humans, so let's just say it needs power. Isn't that a huge difference between humans and dinosaurs?

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[Ratbert]

I'm more focused on the nearer term issues that AI is bringing.

There are already shitloads of conspiracy theorists that think things like we never went to the moon. Now consider what it'd be like if AI existed back then that was capable of replicating those pictures and videos. What jury will believe the video evidence of a crime when it's impossible to know whether it's real or not?

I'm thinking it's going to be extremely challenging to believe any evidence of events that have supposedly happened. Hell, right now when you zoom in past 30x with a Pixel 10 it's enhanced by AI, so even a picture you took yourself isn't real.

 

[BXFXJeep]

The real near term danger of AI is to manipulate the masses, along the same lines of what mass media and big tech have been doing for the last couple of decades, mostly Boomers and Gen X are falling prey , luckily the kids seem to be on the ball.

 

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I'm more focused on the nearer term issues that AI is bringing.

There are already shitloads of conspiracy theorists that think things like we never went to the moon. Now consider what it'd be like if AI existed back then that was capable of replicating those pictures and videos. What jury will believe the video evidence of a crime when it's impossible to know whether it's real or not?

I'm thinking it's going to be extremely challenging to believe any evidence of events that have supposedly happened. Hell, right now when you zoom in past 30x with a Pixel 10 it's enhanced by AI, so even a picture you took yourself isn't real.

Yes, the era of video as evidence is quickly coming to an end. AIs like Sora can easily make someone "say" something they don't want to say.
I'm not an expert on AI logic or technology, so I'm guessing the government will introduce new AI regulatory technology. If AI logic is a kind of tree root, then setting up obstacles at certain trunks will prohibit any related practices. This will prevent some generative AI from fabricating evidence.

 

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Im 100% Pessimistic about AI in the future

The Terminator sounds scary, but sometimes I imagine that maybe we will have some smarter partners, which seems to be a good choice, of course, the premise is that they also think so LOL

 

[Ratbert]

Yes, the era of video as evidence is quickly coming to an end. AIs like Sora can easily make someone "say" something they don't want to say.
I'm not an expert on AI logic or technology, so I'm guessing the government will introduce new AI regulatory technology. If AI logic is a kind of tree root, then setting up obstacles at certain trunks will prohibit any related practices. This will prevent some generative AI from fabricating evidence.

I don’t get what you mean by ‘prohibit.’ I can still install an LLM locally and modify it however I want. The government can outlaw certain uses, but it can’t technically regulate AI itself.

 

[Dgr401]

The biggest thing about AI that worries me is there are no boundaries. I don’t know how anyone would try to regulate it and then even know if their regulations are being followed. It is a slippery slope for sure.

I am curious about it though. I was recently informed that the job I did in the Air Force was recently declassified. I clicked the AI button on Google search and typed in a question that began with what was followed by 7 or 8 words in it. About 2 seconds later there was a full screen of information that was about 98% accurate. AI is scary stuff.

 

[Jeep Wick]

I'm thinking about a question.

Many people are pessimistic about AI and the future, believing that AI will one day become the new master of the earth and humans will be destroyed.

But why does AI have to exterminate humans? If humans need sunlight, water, air, and food to survive, does AI need these things? Does it need to steal them?

Is it possible that AI needs something that does not conflict with humans, or that it actually does not care about the earth at all? It is like a beggar who thinks that the rich will take away his begging bowl, but in fact the rich do not need it at all.

Some people would use the analogy of humans replacing dinosaurs to illustrate AI replacing humans, but humans and dinosaurs need basically the same things to survive. AI currently needs to live in servers built by humans, so let's just say it needs power. Isn't that a huge difference between humans and dinosaurs?

How do we know you're not an AI?
LOL
Elon's already making robots that can do karate, machines building machines... Haven't you seen The Matrix? Terminator? Yes they need us now, but not for long.

 

[3TV]

I'm more focused on the nearer term issues that AI is bringing.

There are already shitloads of conspiracy theorists that think things like we never went to the moon. Now consider what it'd be like if AI existed back then that was capable of replicating those pictures and videos. What jury will believe the video evidence of a crime when it's impossible to know whether it's real or not?

I'm thinking it's going to be extremely challenging to believe any evidence of events that have supposedly happened. Hell, right now when you zoom in past 30x with a Pixel 10 it's enhanced by AI, so even a picture you took yourself isn't real.

YouTube is already ruined. None of the videos are real, so why waste your time watching them.

 

[BXFXJeep]

YouTube is already ruined. None of the videos are real.

This problem already existed for decades, a lot of people can't tell the difference between Hollywood and reality.

Now instead of them having to watch 20 minutes+ to be bamboozled, a 5 sec meme does the job, not much can be done, it's why certain types roll out celebrities for endorsement, some parts memes are considered a crime

 

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I don’t get what you mean by ‘prohibit.’ I can still install an LLM locally and modify it however I want. The government can outlaw certain uses, but it can’t technically regulate AI itself.

Sorry Sir, I am not an expert in AI, so I don’t know whether AI can really be managed (technically). What I'm trying to say is that society and the government have an inherent need to control AI. Because unlike knives, guns, and bombs, which require human control to cause harm to society, people will always try to find ways to control it.

 

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How do we know you're not an AI?
LOL
Elon's already making robots that can do karate, machines building machines... Haven't you seen The Matrix? Terminator? Yes they need us now, but not for long.

You're right. I'm actually an AI trying to post some content... to see how you guys can handle me... LOL

Yes, I mean, I don't deny that AI will one day become more powerful than humans, but do they really care about the resources humans need to survive? We need resources such as electricity, oil, and metals. Will AI discover more efficient energy sources that humans haven't discovered? Then there will be no need to compete with us for these resources.

 

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The biggest thing about AI that worries me is there are no boundaries. I don’t know how anyone would try to regulate it and then even know if their regulations are being followed. It is a slippery slope for sure.

I am curious about it though. I was recently informed that the job I did in the Air Force was recently declassified. I clicked the AI button on Google search and typed in a question that began with what was followed by 7 or 8 words in it. About 2 seconds later there was a full screen of information that was about 98% accurate. AI is scary stuff.

If you know where I'm from, you know they're much stricter about "regulation" here... We all know that.

We have some AIs that probably aren't popular in the US yet, like Doubao or the Chinese version of Deepseek. Even if I ask the AI certain questions (topics they don't want us to discuss online), it won't tell me. It's obviously not a natural AI, and I don't understand the technology behind it, but it's been coded to prevent leaks and other issues.

 

[Ratbert]

The biggest thing about AI that worries me is there are no boundaries. I don’t know how anyone would try to regulate it and then even know if their regulations are being followed. It is a slippery slope for sure.

I am curious about it though. I was recently informed that the job I did in the Air Force was recently declassified. I clicked the AI button on Google search and typed in a question that began with what was followed by 7 or 8 words in it. About 2 seconds later there was a full screen of information that was about 98% accurate. AI is scary stuff.

It would be significantly scarier if it did that while the details were still classified.

 

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It would be significantly scarier if it did that while the details were still classified.

But I thought AI could only search some public data and organize it together, which means that if an ordinary person is willing to spend time, they can also do this. Confidential documents should not be allowed to be accessed by the public. If an ordinary person can't see it, AI should not be able to see it either. Or can AI already guess confidential documents through some public information? This is scary.

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