WXman
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The Gen 1 EcoDiesel wasn't ever sold in the U.S.
The Gen 2 EcoDiesel was, but had several common problems that gave them a bad reputation.
This is the Gen 3 EcoDiesel, and you know what they say... Third time is a charm.
After all that FCA went through during the emissions scandal, and all the recalls and repairs, there is NO WAY they'd release the Gen 3 engine unless they were really confident that this one is going to go the distance and be mostly trouble free. Maybe that's why they redesigned 80% of the engine and emissions system.
On the other hand, the 4xe is brand spanking new technology that is almost guaranteed to end up having bugs and issues over the next couple of years. It also saves zero money in operation, because the 17kWh battery only gets you 20 miles, which works out to about $0.10 to $0.12 per mile depending on local utility rates. Then you fall back on the gasoline engine which gets almost identical cost per mile. The diesel costs about $0.12 per mile, has a long range with no cords, weighs less, etc.
I'm not going to tell anybody what to buy. But I do know that MOST people buying EVs have no idea that current battery technology isn't good enough to actually save them money. Isn't going to happen. And, unless you pay a licensed electrician big money to install a 240v outlet in your garage at home you're going to get really tired of waiting 15 hours to charge the battery pack fully.
The Gen 2 EcoDiesel was, but had several common problems that gave them a bad reputation.
This is the Gen 3 EcoDiesel, and you know what they say... Third time is a charm.
After all that FCA went through during the emissions scandal, and all the recalls and repairs, there is NO WAY they'd release the Gen 3 engine unless they were really confident that this one is going to go the distance and be mostly trouble free. Maybe that's why they redesigned 80% of the engine and emissions system.
On the other hand, the 4xe is brand spanking new technology that is almost guaranteed to end up having bugs and issues over the next couple of years. It also saves zero money in operation, because the 17kWh battery only gets you 20 miles, which works out to about $0.10 to $0.12 per mile depending on local utility rates. Then you fall back on the gasoline engine which gets almost identical cost per mile. The diesel costs about $0.12 per mile, has a long range with no cords, weighs less, etc.
I'm not going to tell anybody what to buy. But I do know that MOST people buying EVs have no idea that current battery technology isn't good enough to actually save them money. Isn't going to happen. And, unless you pay a licensed electrician big money to install a 240v outlet in your garage at home you're going to get really tired of waiting 15 hours to charge the battery pack fully.
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