MOPAR 2" Lift (initial review) - AWESOME!!!

[wesbowhunts]

Spank: You say that all four springs have different part numbers. Is there any way to distinguish which of the front springs goes on a specific side? If not...the driver's side bow is not a spring manufacturing problem, if it were, then bowing would be about 50-50% on each side. If the front springs are 'interchangeable'...this means that the bowing is caused by a non-spring problem somewhere on the driver's side!

they are labeled with different part numbers, the instructions in pdf are in this forum if you would like to take a look.

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[Swanny297]

I'm going to install mine this weekend. Got my fingers crossed. All four springs from my kit have different part numbers, so if the issue is some kits are coming with two springs for the same side, that isn't the case with mine.

I would think Blue is left Red is right, that’s typicall how factory shocks we sequenced for GM were identified..

 

[Swanny297]

Okay. I called Quadratec, They said Mopar is on back order until mid-March. I’ve called 25 places, no luck! Unless somebody knows who has them in stock I guess I have to wait till March, thanks.

I wouldn’t be in a hurry for this lift until the spring issue is resolved.

 

[Mojito Mojo]

The kit is on a National Recall/ National Backorder!

 

[PaulNY]

I wouldn’t be in a hurry for this lift until the spring issue is resolved.

Assuming there really is an issue? Respectfully, there have been several forum members including myself that have done a ton of research, and spoken to experts regarding lift kits. Multiple sources, all of which are very reputable, have concluded without hesitation that the bow is normal and expected. It's obvious that not only Mopar, but other lifts currently on the market (Ironcross, Readylift) have illustrated that their lift kits also have springs that slightly bow. Based on the feedback given, this is simply due to the soft spring rate which I can only assume Mopar did purposely to ensure the stock ride is not compromised. If the spring was stiff with zero bowing, then you can imagine how the ride quality would suffer. In saying that, after much indecision, I moved forward with the Mopar 2" lift and the dealer installed it today. I went to inspect my Rubicon earlier as it's not 100% ready, and I can thankfully say that both sides of my springs have an equal, very minor bow. I sat down with my tech this morning and went over pictures of springs that bowed, and we had a long discussion before he even began working on my rig. Ultimately, they are only charging me for 5 hours of labor, but both he and the service manager spent the whole day on my lift, taking their time, to ensure every single part, perch, springs, and bolt matched perfectly. I was very happy to see how both springs had the same exact minimal bow. He and I compressed the bumper up and down, and it's obvious my bump stops don't come close to the springs on either side. I will be happy to post pics tomorrow afternoon-evening once I pick up "Mad Max". I have zero regrets, and love the stance. The lift is Mopar warranted which also gives me comfort, but nowhere near the comfort of the communication I had with the aforementioned experts who assured me this level of bow is very normal, and there is nothing to worry about. Further, my master certified technician who is in his 50's, has over 25 years of Jeep experience, and solely does the lift kit installs, echoed the same sentiments. He said any lift over 2" (Mopar lift seems more like 3"), will have a slight bow with soft spring rates. So, sorry for the long post, but I hope that we can soon put this to bed as multiple, highly knowledgeable and experienced experts have clearly stated that this is not an issue.

Quickly, I have seen a couple of forum members that had significant bowing with their respective rigs where the bump stops are close to the springs, and for those I would say simply that I can't imagine the lift was installed correctly. Or, potentially maybe they did get a bad spring from the vendor. However, I can confirm that my dealer spent the entire day slowly installing my lift to ensure it was done correctly, and after seeing my rig and springs in person, I can only assume it was installed 100% as intended my Mopar.

 

[wesbowhunts]

Assuming there really is an issue? Respectfully, there has been several forum members including myself that have done a ton of research, and spoken to experts regarding lift kits. Multiple sources, all of which are very reputable, have concluded without hesitation that the bow is normal and expected. It's obvious that not only Mopar, but other lifts currently on the market (Ironcross, Readylift) have illustrated that their lift kits also have springs that slightly bow. Based on the feedback given, this is simply due to the soft spring rate which I can only assume Mopar did purposely to ensure the stock ride is not compromised. If the spring was stiff with zero bowing, then you can imagine how the ride quality would suffer. In saying that, after much indecision, I moved forward with the Mopar 2" lift and the dealer installed it today. I went to inspect my Rubicon earlier as it's not 100% ready, and I can thankfully say that both sides of my springs have an equal, very minor bow. I sat down with my tech this morning and went over pictures of springs that bowed, and we had a long discussion before he even began working on my rig. Ultimately, they are only charging me for 5 hours of labor, but both he and the service manager spent the whole day on my lift, taking their time, to ensure every single part, perch, springs, and bolt matched perfectly. I was very happy to see how both springs had the same exact minimal bow. He and I compressed the bumper up and down, and it's obvious my bump stops doesn't come close to the springs on either side. I will be happy to post pics tomorrow afternoon-evening once I pick up "Mad Max". I have zero regrets, and love the stance. The lift is Mopar warranted which also gives me comfort, but nowhere near the comfort of the communication I had with the aforementioned experts who assured me this level of bow is very normal, and there is nothing to worry about. Further, my master certified technician who is in his 50's, has over 25 years of Jeep experience, and solely does the lift kit installs, echoed the same sentiments. He said any lift over 2" (Mopar lift seems more like 3"), will have a slight bow with soft spring rates. So, sorry for the long post, but I hope that we can soon put this to bed as multiple, highly knowledgeable and experienced experts have clearly stated that this is not an issue.

Quickly, I have seen a couple of forum members that had significant bowing with their respective rigs where the bump stops are close to the springs, and for those I would say simply that I can't imagine the lift was installed correctly. Or, potentially maybe they did get a bad spring from the vendor. However, I can confirm that my dealer spent the entire day slowly installing my lift to ensure it was done correctly, and after seeing my rig and springs in person, I can only assume it was installed 100% as intended my Mopar.

i am one that has severe bowing on the driver side. i can 1000% assure you its is installed correctly. i think it would be pretty hard to screw it up. im happy you got a good one, and to me that confirms that it is a spring issue considering its either severe or not.

 

[Back In Black Rubi]

i am one that has severe bowing on the driver side. i can 1000% assure you its is installed correctly. i think it would be pretty hard to screw it up. im happy you got a good one, and to me that confirms that it is a spring issue considering its either severe or not.

Question for you - have you confirmed that the perch is on the correct side?
Not only is the spring Left & Right dependent, so is the bottom plastic perch it sits on.
I too have heard that the bow is normal... Good luck to you.

 

[PaulNY]

i am one that has severe bowing on the driver side. i can 1000% assure you its is installed correctly. i think it would be pretty hard to screw it up. im happy you got a good one, and to me that confirms that it is a spring issue considering its either severe or not.

Wes, I hate to hear you got a bad apple. I wonder if the manufacturer who produces the springs made a couple of bad batches? Since these springs are obviously soft spring rated, could it be that the composition of the metal was compromised in a batch or two during a certain production run? It's hard to say, but if there is any way you can get Mopar to send you new replacement springs, I would love to see the outcome and hopefully the fix is that simple. I am no lift expert, but it seems reasonable that potentially you got a set of springs that are slightly more "pliable" or not heat treated to specs. Nonetheless, if you're certain that your lift was installed 100% correctly, and I believe you, then maybe seek a replacement set of springs to see if that is the culprit. Also, just like patients get second medical opinions, do you think it would be beneficial to go to another reputable Jeep dealer to get their opinion, just in case something was overlooked? I am sure it wasn't, but whoever installed your lift is human. Just food for thought.

 

[wesbowhunts]

Question for you - have you confirmed that the perch is on the correct side?
Not only is the spring Left & Right dependent, so is the bottom plastic perch it sits on.
I too have heard that the bow is normal... Good luck to you.

yes i am sure.

 

[wesbowhunts]

Wes, I hate to hear you got a bad apple. I wonder if the manufacturer who produces the springs made a couple of bad batches? Since these springs are obviously soft spring rated, could it be that the composition of the metal was compromised in a batch or two during a certain production run? It's hard to say, but if there is any way you can get Mopar to send you new replacement springs, I would love to see the outcome and hopefully the fix is that simple. I am no lift expert, but it seems reasonable that potentially you got a set of springs that are slightly more "pliable" or not heat treated to specs. Nonetheless, if you're certain that your lift was installed 100% correctly, and I believe you, then maybe seek a replacement set of springs to see if that is the culprit. Also, just like patients get second medical opinions, do you think it would be beneficial to go to another reputable Jeep dealer to get their opinion, just in case something was overlooked? I am sure it wasn't, but whoever installed your lift is human. Just food for thought.

thats what ive been trying to get since early last week. dealers tech that installs all the lifts even agreed with me. mopar has no springs or kits to replace it with currently and they advised the dealer to grind down the spring isolator. i told the dealer not to and not to touch it because i knew it wouldnt fix it and they did it anyways. still no fix.

 

[johnnyjeep]

Did anyone install the lift and leave stock tires on? Can you report back what it did to your gas mileage? I heard the lift and change to 35" will cost me about 2mpg. Just wondering what just the lift would work out to be?

 

[TopPinArcher]

Did anyone install the lift and leave stock tires on? Can you report back what it did to your gas mileage? I heard the lift and change to 35" will cost me about 2mpg. Just wondering what just the lift would work out to be?

I wouldn’t think the lift and stock tires would change MPG enough to notice if at all but going to 35 will, at least that’s what happened on my JK’s then I installed a CAI and borla exhaust and got the mpg back..

 

[TopPinArcher]

As far as the spring issue goes... does anyone know if there is more than one manufacturing facility. If there’s more than one manufacturer then one of them could be out of spec creating this issue... I didn’t verify yet but if RedRubi is correct and there is a recall then that could be why. Just my guess.

 

[Swanny297]

Assuming there really is an issue? Respectfully, there have been several forum members including myself that have done a ton of research, and spoken to experts regarding lift kits. Multiple sources, all of which are very reputable, have concluded without hesitation that the bow is normal and expected. It's obvious that not only Mopar, but other lifts currently on the market (Ironcross, Readylift) have illustrated that their lift kits also have springs that slightly bow. Based on the feedback given, this is simply due to the soft spring rate which I can only assume Mopar did purposely to ensure the stock ride is not compromised. If the spring was stiff with zero bowing, then you can imagine how the ride quality would suffer. In saying that, after much indecision, I moved forward with the Mopar 2" lift and the dealer installed it today. I went to inspect my Rubicon earlier as it's not 100% ready, and I can thankfully say that both sides of my springs have an equal, very minor bow. I sat down with my tech this morning and went over pictures of springs that bowed, and we had a long discussion before he even began working on my rig. Ultimately, they are only charging me for 5 hours of labor, but both he and the service manager spent the whole day on my lift, taking their time, to ensure every single part, perch, springs, and bolt matched perfectly. I was very happy to see how both springs had the same exact minimal bow. He and I compressed the bumper up and down, and it's obvious my bump stops don't come close to the springs on either side. I will be happy to post pics tomorrow afternoon-evening once I pick up "Mad Max". I have zero regrets, and love the stance. The lift is Mopar warranted which also gives me comfort, but nowhere near the comfort of the communication I had with the aforementioned experts who assured me this level of bow is very normal, and there is nothing to worry about. Further, my master certified technician who is in his 50's, has over 25 years of Jeep experience, and solely does the lift kit installs, echoed the same sentiments. He said any lift over 2" (Mopar lift seems more like 3"), will have a slight bow with soft spring rates. So, sorry for the long post, but I hope that we can soon put this to bed as multiple, highly knowledgeable and experienced experts have clearly stated that this is not an issue.

Quickly, I have seen a couple of forum members that had significant bowing with their respective rigs where the bump stops are close to the springs, and for those I would say simply that I can't imagine the lift was installed correctly. Or, potentially maybe they did get a bad spring from the vendor. However, I can confirm that my dealer spent the entire day slowly installing my lift to ensure it was done correctly, and after seeing my rig and springs in person, I can only assume it was installed 100% as intended my Mopar.

Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of aftermarket lifts with coils in the JL world yet that can be compared against, everyone is comparing their Mopar with another members Mopar lift. I have run aftermarket lifts on my previous Jeeps (BDS and Teraflex) over 3” and I don’t remember having any kind of bow in the coils.

Maybe it isn’t an issue, but I wouldn’t pay $1300-$1500 for a rebranded kit that is showing various degrees of this issue across numerous vehicles.

 

[PaulNY]

Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of aftermarket lifts with coils in the JL world yet that can be compared against, everyone is comparing their Mopar with another members Mopar lift. I have run aftermarket lifts on my previous Jeeps (BDS and Teraflex) over 3” and I don’t remember having any kind of bow in the coils.

Maybe it isn’t an issue, but I wouldn’t pay $1300-$1500 for a rebranded kit that is showing various degrees of this issue across numerous vehicles.

Could it have been that your lift contained coils that were stiff, and not soft rated? If so, then of course they wouldn't have bowed. If I am not mistaken, isn't BDS and Teraflex kits more for the hardcore offroader? Just speculating of course, but it would make sense that they tailored their lifts to more hardcore off-road enthusiast and thus created kits/springs that were thicker, stiffer, and less likely to bow. Nonetheless, I have "heard' bad things about both of those lift kits as well, along with some good. Ultimately, I don't think it matters what brand you go with as lift kit quality, ride quality, and performance is very subjective.

I paid $1300 for my "rebranded" Mopar lift (I believe it says Fox on the shocks) because it was installed by a master Mopar tech with over 25 years of experience, is warranted by Mopar, and suits my needs perfectly as I wanted an off-road capable rig with a like factory ride. Is it perfect? Heck no, but neither is any other lift kit on the market. It meets my needs and I am VERY happy. Likewise, if you choose to wait for a BDS or Teraflex lift, I hope it makes you happy and provides the level of service that you specifically want for your own personal needs. if the BDS and Teraflex coils don't bow, then personally I wouldn't buy those because that tells me the ride would be too stiff for my needs.

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