AutoPark Engaged? WTF?

[Sean K.]

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[Jeepsterfreak]

So I searched and read the "similar threads". No other threads on this problem that I can find.

My JLUR does not have the proximity sensor option. However, when I go into park, get out of the vehicle to check the mail (for 1 instance) and get back in and shift to drive...it pulls the "Autopark Engaged: Shift to P then Shift to Gear.

You follow the instructions...it doesn't work. You try several times. Nada. You shut the Jeep off and turn it back on a few times. It finally "resets" apparently and allows you to move. SUPER FRUSTRATING JEEP.

It just did it to me again this morning while shuffling cars around between my shop and the garage.

How is this going to work on the trail? Not well I suspect when getting in and out at obstacles and leaving it in park (ebrake engaged or not).

Anyone having this issue or am I just lucky enough to get a problem from FCA?

At least AutoPark is disabled in 4 Lo.

 

[Jeepsterfreak]

So many problems with all this technology. It will get even worse when 48v BSG is forced on us.

I read in another thread that Tazer might have updated their software to disable autopark.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Sean K.

You are spewing, incorrect information......

Do know that most guys that have a Tazer JL, do in fact, leave the Tazer JL plugged in all the time.

The Tazer JL is left plugged in so you can benefit from the offered "live Features".

* With that said, I can tell you that in fact, disable auto park, thanks to the Tazer JL, works for me and many other's.

I take advantage of auto park being disabled, thanks to the Tazer JL, a few times a week. 8-)

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[Rhinebeck01]

@Sean K.

My post was basically a knee jerk response so to speak to your very vague (in my eyes) post.

The majority of guys that know didly about programmer's for the JL, that read your post, would take it that.... might think that., disable auto park is not possible when indeed, with the TazerJL and Tazer JL Lite it is.

Again, disable auto park is a Live Feature. From my understanding, this is never going to change. Live Features require the programmer to remain plugged in.

Curious, what is your big concern about leaving say a TazerJL Lite plugged into the gateway module at all times?

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[Rhinebeck01]

@Sean K.

I'm just a Tazer JL fanboy. Was in my past life also..

Not that it matters, but ZAutomotive is about 80 miles from my location in NY. I have never been to ZAutomotive's location. I have no business affiliation, etc. with ZAutomotive...

i purchased my TazerJL from ZAutomotive a few months ago..

Sure, like other guys here I have had communication with Joe at ZAutomotive, on occasion via pm's, forum posts and emails.

I can tell you I have had many guys reach out to ME in regard to the TazerJL. I have gotten pm's , emails and more, countless times with guys sincerely interested in the in's and outs of a JL programmer.. guy's, etc... looking for set-up info.. I am always open to fielding questions from a guy or gal in regard to the Tazer JL or other JL , thing, lets call it.

I always answer pm's, reply to emails and even talk to guys on the phone in regard to Tazer JL set-up and more. I reply often to guys and gals here.

Yes, I reached out to you in a pm, weeks ago..... (did not do that again after you said you were not interested in any info other then from the manufacturer) I initially pm'd you, as I thought you were just another young guy, seeking a JL programmer ... but lost and unable to zero in on a programmer that would meet their needs.

ANYWAY, @Sean K. do research a bit in regard to programmers.

DO KNOW that the Tazer JL Lite does not plug into the OBDll port. The Tazer JL Lite (which can be enabled so it has full Tazer JL feature set) plugs into the gateway module up under the dashboard.. No way, would you be able to hit your leg on it because you have "long legs". The Tazer JL Lite will disable auto park for you...

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[Rhinebeck01]

@Sean K.

The Tazer JL Lite costs $219.00. For $125 more you can have it enabled so it has the full feature set... the exact same feature set as the Tazer JL. Sure going this route costs you more $ then going with the actual, Tazer JL ($249) but... but you are not wanting any thing plugged into the OBDll port so..

Also, do know you can plug an OBDll extension cable ($5.00+-) into the ODBDll port and then move the Tazer JL up out of the way of your legs if you chose to go with a Tazer JL.

The Tazer JL plugs into the OBDll port and it's companion module plugs in above it where the gateway is.

The Tazer JL Lite is a combo unit of sorts .... a single piece of hardware (pictured below) that plugs in high up under the dash (easy to get to) right where the Tazer JL companion module would reside if you went with a Tazer JL. Nothing gets plugged into the OBDll port.. There is absolutely no way in hell your leg, knee or whatever could possibly touch... come in contact with the Tazer JL Lite.

Below find a pic of where the Tazer JL Lite will plug into and a pic of the Tazer JL Lite itself.

Tazer JL Lite,,, It's pretty small

Red circle is around the 2 connectors you disconnect from the JL and plug into the Tazer JL Lite. It's right up above the OBDll port.
Aceess to this area is easy if you pull off plastic (pulls straight off) just below the JL's steering column.

Here is the Tazer JL, it companion module and the included data cable

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Sean K.

If you go with the Tazer JL and it companion module, the companion module resides way up, out of the way as I mentioned. IF you have an OBDll extender cable you can move the Tazer JL up quite aways also. For sure it would be out of legs reach. I fasten mine up high with a 2"x3" piece of industrial strength velcro. There is lots of room for it up there.

Can tell you a lot of forum member's are using an OBDll extension cable with their Tazer JL.

The Tazer JL Lite was released fairly recently, so most guys have the Tazer JL at this point in time.

In regard to interface. It is EXACTLY the same, regardless of whether you are using a Tazer JL or Tazer JL Lite. You see all on the evic (dash display as you call it)...

As far as the ZAutomotive, utility software you put on your computer that you use with the Tazer JL, it is the same that you use with the Tazer JL Lite.

Note: To reiterate, remember, it costs an additional $125 to enable the $219 Tazer JL Lite so it has full Tazer JL features.

I'll attach the instructions that are for the Tazer JL with firmware version 11.0.6. The features listed in those instructions also apply to the fully enabled Tazer JL Lite.

As mentioned earlier, I an just a Tazer JL fanboy and not an employee, etc. of ZAutomotive. I am providing info here just to be helpful..

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[Rhinebeck01]

Disable auto park, disable ESS and a few other Tazer JL features are "Live Features". With Live Features you MUST have both the Tazer JL plugged into the OBDll port and the Tazer JL companion module plugged in up above it.

As mentioned in my earlier post, the Tazer JL Lite is a combo unit so all you need is to keep the Tazer JL Lite plugged in up above (the OBDll post has nothing plugged into it) in order to use/enjoy Live Features.

Important: In regard to auto park and the Tazer JL.... For the record, myself and a few others have noticed that disable auto park, thanks to the Tazer JL or Tazer JL Lite will only work if you keep your seat belt fastened.

Another words, as long as your seat belt is fastened with auto park disabled you can open the door and hang out of it and back up, etc... 8-)

Again, seat belt has to be fastened or auto park will kick in, even if disabled with the Tazer JL... Joe at ZAutomotive, recently posted that you should not have to have your seat belt fastened and that he is looking into why some have to have seat belt fastened and others do not... Personally, I do not care either way. I have no problem with having my belt fastened around me or behind me..

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[Arrowhead]

Important: In regard to auto park and the Tazer JL.... For the record, myself and a few others have noticed that disable auto park, thanks to the Tazer JL or Tazer JL Lite will only work if you keep your seat belt fastened.

Another words, as long as your seat belt is fastened with auto park disabled you can open the door and hang out of it and back up, etc... 8-)

Again, seat belt has to be fastened or auto park will kick in, even if disabled with the Tazer JL... Joe at ZAutomotive, recently posted that you should not have to have your seat belt fastened and that he is looking into why some have to have seat belt fastened and others do not... Personally, I do not care either way. I have no problem with having my belt fastened around me or behind me..

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I guess I'm confused. The auto park engages if the door is open, the brake is off, the seat belt is undone AND the truck is in gear. If any one of those conditions do not exist, the auto park will not engage. So if you need the seat belt engaged for the tazer to prevent auto park, then it doesn't seem like it's doing anything.

 

[Arrowhead]

So I searched and read the "similar threads". No other threads on this problem that I can find.

My JLUR does not have the proximity sensor option. However, when I go into park, get out of the vehicle to check the mail (for 1 instance) and get back in and shift to drive...it pulls the "Autopark Engaged: Shift to P then Shift to Gear.

You follow the instructions...it doesn't work. You try several times. Nada. You shut the Jeep off and turn it back on a few times. It finally "resets" apparently and allows you to move. SUPER FRUSTRATING JEEP.

It just did it to me again this morning while shuffling cars around between my shop and the garage.

How is this going to work on the trail? Not well I suspect when getting in and out at obstacles and leaving it in park (ebrake engaged or not).

Anyone having this issue or am I just lucky enough to get a problem from FCA?

Unless you are trying to move with the door open and seat belt undone (you didn't specify in you OP), you shouldn't have the auto park engage on you, see my post above. If it won't move with the door closed, then yes, you have an issue that should be looked at, a programmer is not going to help.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Arrowhead

Geeez, you have confused me with the wording you used...

Sounds like you may not be familiar with how auto park works.. ??


With no Tazer JL in the mix, IF, I open the driver's door on any JL , when I am going forward or backward, the JL will go right into autopark. (regardless of whether seat belt is fastened or not).... Auto park kicks in, vehicle stops abruptly.

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[Jeepsterfreak]

@Arrowhead

Geeez, you have confused me with the wording you used...

Sounds like you may not be familiar with how auto park works.. ??


With no Tazer JL in the mix, IF, I open the driver's door on any JL , when I am going forward or backward, the JL will go right into autopark. (regardless of whether seat belt is fastened or not).... Auto park kicks in, vehicle stops abruptly.

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If it’s not working according to owners manual, then you have a problem.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Jeepsterfreak

I think @Arrowhead has confused all with his post. I myself know very well how auto park works in regard to JL. AND, I know auto park on my JL is disabled thanks to the Tazer JL.

Thanks to the Tazer JL, I can open my driver's door when the vehicle is driving forward or in reverse. As I mentioned though, I do have to have seat belt fastened in front or back or me.....

 

[Arrowhead]

With no Tazer JL in the mix, IF, I open the driver's door on any JL , when I am going forward or backward, the JL will go right into autopark. (regardless of whether seat belt is fastened or not).... Auto park kicks in, vehicle stops abruptly.
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Ya know I was trying to be nice and play dumb by saying I was confused. Thought maybe you would chime in and take the high road. Well that's over. You are completely wrong in your description of how autopark works and your contradicting the manual excerpt above. Just admit it, the Tazer isn't disabling autopark if you still need the seatbelt engaged. Period

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