2025 4XE

[birdsofprey02]

New 2025 Wrangler info posted on jeep.com

Looking over the deltas now. Was interested in High Altitude 4xe but I don’t see that as a choice now.

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[Lee Woiteshek]

I'm not seeing an increased range on the battery from the 2021's. Other than the winch, and increased screen on the center console, there's not much for me to justify an upgrade to a new one.

 

[INCRHULK]

I wonder what happened to the Gladiator 4xe. What ever improvements they were adding to the JT to make the hybrid a working option were supposed to transition to the JL.

Jeep was 100% on record that the JT would get a 4xe powertrain for ‘25. Even in the latest UAW contracts.

 

[JesseT]

I wonder what happened to the Gladiator 4xe. What ever improvements they were adding to the JT to make the hybrid a working option were supposed to transition to the JL.

Jeep was 100% on record that the JT would get a 4xe powertrain for ‘25. Even in the latest UAW contracts.

They didn't specify MY 2025, just that it would be happening in 2025. Could be 2025 builds for MY 2026.

 

[TXSquid78]

I'm not seeing an increased range on the battery from the 2021's. Other than the winch, and increased screen on the center console, there's not much for me to justify an upgrade to a new one.

Versus what? Buying the current Jeep or just moving onto another\different vehicle?

 

[Lee Woiteshek]

My options at this point are, keeping what I have, buying out the lease, purchasing a 2025 with the same equipment and package I have, or lastly, I've been eyeing the Ranger Raptor. But its fuel mileage is abysmal The 2025 Wrangler 4xe Rubicon seems to have the same battery pack as my 2021. The winch, 12-inch screen, and floating axles aren't enough for me to purchase a new one, when the one I have is problem-free, and only has 12K on the odometer that I've put on. I like the Ranger Raptor for the pickup bed, which I don't need, till I do, and that's several times a year. I ordered my Rubicon fully loaded, and the 45K buyout at the end of the lease is the cheapest option, I expect by this time next year I'll likely have 16K on it, which means it's still virtually new.

 

[TXSquid78]

My options at this point are, keeping what I have, buying out the lease, purchasing a 2025 with the same equipment and package I have, or lastly, I've been eyeing the Ranger Raptor. But its fuel mileage is abysmal The 2025 Wrangler 4xe Rubicon seems to have the same battery pack as my 2021. The winch, 12-inch screen, and floating axles aren't enough for me to purchase a new one, when the one I have is problem-free, and only has 12K on the odometer that I've put on. I like the Ranger Raptor for the pickup bed, which I don't need, till I do, and that's several times a year. I ordered my Rubicon fully loaded, and the 45K buyout at the end of the lease is the cheapest option, I expect by this time next year I'll likely have 16K on it, which means it's still virtually new.

Ill be in the same boat as you a year later though. End of the day, it will cost me more to buyout the lease at the end. If I buy it out today, it wouldnt be so bad but the xe factor is what is keeping me from doing it. My battery is only warrantied at 8 yrs. At the end of the lease (3 yr.), the residual will be so high that I would have paid more to keep it than to just move into a new one. Not sure what a 4 yr. lease would have been.

 

[azwjowner]

My options at this point are, keeping what I have, buying out the lease, purchasing a 2025 with the same equipment and package I have, or lastly, I've been eyeing the Ranger Raptor. But its fuel mileage is abysmal The 2025 Wrangler 4xe Rubicon seems to have the same battery pack as my 2021. The winch, 12-inch screen, and floating axles aren't enough for me to purchase a new one, when the one I have is problem-free, and only has 12K on the odometer that I've put on. I like the Ranger Raptor for the pickup bed, which I don't need, till I do, and that's several times a year. I ordered my Rubicon fully loaded, and the 45K buyout at the end of the lease is the cheapest option, I expect by this time next year I'll likely have 16K on it, which means it's still virtually new.

Given Jeep quality, if you have a "good one," and it sounds like you do, I would not roll the dice again on a new one. Not even a close decision in my mind. Just look at the posts on here with people with 2024 Pentastars that are needing O2 sensor & ECM replacements.

 

[ras815]

Given Jeep quality, if you have a "good one," and it sounds like you do, I would not roll the dice again on a new one.

A "good one" is only "good" until the first big problem... and at 12k miles, that's probably not enough usage to really find out.

 

[Lee Woiteshek]

My three-year 36K warranty ends this month. I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop...

 

[melman]

My warranty just ended . I have another year on my lease (4 years) but i‘m getting the itch I’m ready to go all ev . I want either a ford lightning or (gulp) a Kia ev9 I can‘t stop looking at them . I’ve been in some kinda of Mopar vehicle for over 20 years but I think it’s time to move on

 

[Ol’ Timey Manual SWB Guy]

Back to the OP:

Both Panasonic & Samsung SDI have issued a flurry of press releases recently related to the development of much higher energy density EV cells, with expected scale-production dates between 2025 and 2027.

It’s chemistry, not sorcery.

Now, which OE vehicle manufacturer will use which firm(s)’ battery cells for a given vehicle platform? that’s probably a CFO level decision.

At a technical level, it certainly seems plausible that a wrangler could have 45 or more miles on just electricity.

Or, perhaps they’ll create eTorque II, and just make the whole fleet get 35 MPG in stop-and-go traffic?

in any case, that’s how it will happen: the cells themselves are getting better.

 

[GinaC]

Back to the OP:

Both Panasonic & Samsung SDI have issued a flurry of press releases recently related to the development of much higher energy density EV cells, with expected scale-production dates between 2025 and 2027.

It’s chemistry, not sorcery.

Now, which OE vehicle manufacturer will use which firm(s)’ battery cells for a given vehicle platform? that’s probably a CFO level decision.

At a technical level, it certainly seems plausible that a wrangler could have 45 or more miles on just electricity.

Or, perhaps they’ll create eTorque II, and just make the whole fleet get 35 MPG in stop-and-go traffic?

in any case, that’s how it will happen: the cells themselves are getting better.

This makes sense, and hopefully future cell technology was taken into account when designing today's 4xe's. If not, folks are going to be mighty peeved if suddenly their $60k+ vehicle is "obsolete".

 

[wrang_stang]

Perfect explanation. It's just not feasible. What's more than likely going to happen is the 4xe will get a rear floating axle and same intricacies as what the new 4xe Gladiator hybrid system design will be so that tooling will be the same across the 4xe platform to keep cost down.



I see the year 2030 thrown around but I really don't anticipate Jeep will be in the forefront of adopting that tech. You'll likely see it in full EV vehicles first.

My understanding is the 4xe always came with floating axles due to the increased weight.

 

[rforbes]

My understanding is the 4xe always came with floating axles due to the increased weight.

Just starting at 2024.

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