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Browsed pages on Amazon, non of them works for 450 amp. Only Warn interruptor kit. But looking for something less expensive. Wondering is there any site that sells these high quality things?
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Browsed pages on Amazon, non of them works for 450 amp. Only Warn interruptor kit. But looking for something less expensive. Wondering is there any site that sells these high quality things?
Which winch are you needing this for?
 

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The Warn 62132 power interrupt kit is rated at 450 amps. The 63001 solenoid is sold as the replacement for the solenoid in the interrupt kit.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OV4NT4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.quadratec.com/products/92126_0005.htm
The last line on the Quadratec page shows the amp rating.

Less than $100 to prevent a fire is a good deal.
I have seen this solenoid and I'm very skeptical about this one.

There has no technical data or specs about this solenoid, neither the manufacture is known.

A solenoid is not rocket science, it's basically just relay connecting two metal conductor. By looking at the size and stud material, it's unlikely to support 450amp as continuous duty. It is more likely to be a 450 amp make - that's like 10 seconds intermittent duty with 30 minutes cooling down. I'm sure many people use this one for their winch, but it's unknown how well this performs. Also $58 for a solenoid is a rip-off unless it's made in USA
 

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I have seen this solenoid and I'm very skeptical about this one.

There has no technical data or specs about this solenoid, neither the manufacture is known.

A solenoid is not rocket science, it's basically just relay connecting two metal conductor. By looking at the size and stud material, it's unlikely to support 450amp as continuous duty. It is more likely to be a 450 amp make - that's like 10 seconds intermittent duty with 30 minutes cooling down. I'm sure many people use this one for their winch, but it's unknown how well this performs. Also $58 for a solenoid is a rip-off unless it's made in USA
All I know is that it's the one Warn sells. Just trying to help
 

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Some info I found about Warn's solenoid kit, in an Amazon review of all things. It appears to be an AMETEK SAS-4214, which is available in 100A or 200A rated (continuous) versions. Which one they spec, no idea. It's hard to dive into details without one in hand to read what might be printed on the chassis, as they make a LOT of different ones with different specs:

https://www.ametekswitch.com/products/solenoids-list/metal-case-solenoid-sas

OTOH this is kind of a rabbit hole. The Albright contactor pack that came in my VR10s Evo (itself a massive upgrade from the old solenoid packs) is an Albright DC88-1074P. DC88-1000P datasheet - rated 185A at 30% duty cycle, 100A continuous, 360 amp for ~100 seconds. This winch draws 360 amps at stall. So I better not run it for more than 100 seconds continuous? Am I going to rebuild it with a bigger contactor? (no, I'm not). You can find this chart in the spec sheet:
Jeep Wrangler JL Need a solenoid for winch, where to buy? AlbrightDC88-1000P


The supplied wiring is 2ga, which is also not rated for 360 amps continuous. Kinda comes down to what the definition of "intermittent" draw is. Typical winch pull is VERY intermittent; the max pull at stall in deep mud might only be a few seconds. Maybe some readers here aren't typical; up to you if you want to build for more than that.

If I was going to wire in an electric disconnect, I'd use a single pole non-reversing Albright contactor over the Warn disconnect solenoid. What I did however was a Bluesea 6006 manual disconnect switch (rated almost 3x the contactor pack, that'll do lol) and 2/0 EDIT: 1/0 wiring for the long pos/neg battery cables (I left the 2ga short wires from contactor to motor alone). I kinda got wrapped up in overdoing the 2/0 EDIT: 1/0 wiring, it's definitely overkill. I used to use my winch a LOT in my old Tacoma; maybe I overcorrected based on that. Since getting my JT Rubicon I can't seem to get it stuck no matter what I do :)

EDITED: corrected 2/0 gauge to 1/0 gauge
 
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Some info I found about Warn's solenoid kit, in an Amazon review of all things. It appears to be an AMETEK SAS-4214, which is available in 100A or 200A rated (continuous) versions. Which one they spec, no idea. It's hard to dive into details without one in hand to read what might be printed on the chassis, as they make a LOT of different ones with different specs:

https://www.ametekswitch.com/products/solenoids-list/metal-case-solenoid-sas

OTOH this is kind of a rabbit hole. The Albright contactor pack that came in my VR10s Evo (itself a massive upgrade from the old solenoid packs) is an Albright DC88-1074P. DC88-1000P datasheet - rated 185A at 30% duty cycle, 100A continuous, 360 amp for ~100 seconds. This winch draws 360 amps at stall. So I better not run it for more than 100 seconds continuous? Am I going to rebuild it with a bigger contactor? (no, I'm not). You can find this chart in the spec sheet:
AlbrightDC88-1000P.jpg


The supplied wiring is 2ga, which is also not rated for 360 amps continuous. Kinda comes down to what the definition of "intermittent" draw is. Typical winch pull is VERY intermittent; the max pull at stall in deep mud might only be a few seconds. Maybe some readers here aren't typical; up to you if you want to build for more than that.

If I was going to wire in an electric disconnect, I'd use a single pole non-reversing Albright contactor over the Warn disconnect solenoid. What I did however was a Bluesea 6006 manual disconnect switch (rated almost 3x the contactor pack, that'll do lol) and 2/0 wiring for the long pos/neg battery cables (I left the 2ga short wires from contactor to motor alone). I kinda got wrapped up in overdoing the 2/0 wiring, it's definitely overkill. I used to use my winch a LOT in my old Tacoma; maybe I overcorrected based on that. Since getting my JT Rubicon I can't seem to get it stuck no matter what I do :)
Thanks. Got the SAS-4202.
 

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The Warn 62132 is rated at 450 amps.

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Browsed pages on Amazon, non of them works for 450 amp. Only Warn interruptor kit. But looking for something less expensive. Wondering is there any site that sells these high quality things?
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