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The more extras selected, the more the chances of possible delays. Some options are more prone for delays than others. I appears that anyone with safety groups tend to linger here longer. Ordered Earl 2D Sport 3.6 MT and it entered production 6 weeks after order.
I ordered both safety packages. I have VIN so…..
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That depends……. Cara has a sticky note on her screen with your VIN - reminding her to keep you in the dark for another couple weeks. ?
Yep. Stella can read minds and tell who is worrying the most about receiving their builds. She passes the VINs on to Cara and then Cara sends those VINs to Jeff and he drives the Jeeps to storage to be held there for a week or 3 until defeat sets in so bad you stop checking the tracker. At that point, Cara puts you in TBD and your Jeep magically shows up.
 

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Antiquated views in this case refers to Toyota’s blindly loyal customers that still believe Toyota’s reliability is far away better than all other brands. In fact, over the last half decade, Toyota has been dethroned in brand reliability rankings several times, and reliability scores of the competition’s trucks (and cars) have vastly improved and are now within a few points (out of 100) of Toyota’s, and the competition offers better payload capacity, better towing capacity, more efficient engines, better transmissions, fully boxed frames (Tacoma is still C channel in the rear), better brakes (responsive, four wheel disc brakes instead of soft, spongey brakes with rear drums), better interiors, and better technology.

That’s what happens when you rest on your laurels, I suppose.
Yes - complacency gets them every time. Reminds me of Mercedes. They’re a far cry from their reputation of past decades.
 

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Yes - complacency gets them every time. Reminds me of Mercedes. They’re a far cry from their reputation of past decades.
Mercedes darkest days were the merger days. They’re still not back to pre-merger Mercedes, but they have certainly bounced back from those horrendous times.
 

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Yep. Stella can read minds and tell who is worrying the most about receiving their builds. She passes the VINs on to Cara and then Cara sends those VINs to Jeff and he drives the Jeeps to storage to be held there for a week or 3 until defeat sets in so bad you stop checking the tracker. At that point, Cara puts you in TBD and your Jeep magically shows up.
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Ok, now this sounds like some strategery @Strategist would come up with. ?
 

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news... They've only got one more bucket of Sarge Green paint left... Just enough to build @Strategist 's 392... They're going to paint your Jeep with the left over Tuscadero, High Velocity, and Reign paint... Good luck!
Those colors are going to look like my first VW Beetle. If you put three colors of primer in there :CWL:
 

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Anyone?
Are there updates on weekends or nothing until Monday?
They do update every day including weekends.
Also remember that the trackers are one day behind the actual date, so tomorrow (Saturday) will show whatever actually occurred today (Friday). Sunday and Monday will have updates but less than the other days because the factories work reduced schedules on Saturdays and Sundays (shown on trackers Sunday and Monday).
 

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Yep. Stella can read minds and tell who is worrying the most about receiving their builds. She passes the VINs on to Cara and then Cara sends those VINs to Jeff and he drives the Jeeps to storage to be held there for a week or 3 until defeat sets in so bad you stop checking the tracker. At that point, Cara puts you in TBD and your Jeep magically shows up.
I just got put in TBD after my delivery window was pushed 3 times, hopefully that means next week now ? ?
 
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I mean... if you really want me to cut you deep, I'd be glad to tell you all the ways in which the current Tacoma lags behind the competition making it the worst mid-size truck on the market... ?
I have a 22 TRD Tacoma and love it. have about 15k miles and it is the six speed. It is the only truck I know of besides the gladiator you can get a manual transmission and 4x4. I paid 39k for it and could sell it tomorrow for 40k used. What tacoma have you driven that hurt you?
 

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I have a 22 TRD Tacoma and love it. have about 15k miles and it is the six speed. It is the only truck I know of besides the gladiator you can get a manual transmission and 4x4. I paid 39k for it and could sell it tomorrow for 40k used. What tacoma have you driven that hurt you?
I seem to have touched a nerve. You’re just proving my point about blind brand loyalty. ?

Let's examine the mid-size truck class for MY22 and look at their ability to do "truck things."

MY22 TruckPower / TorqueFuel EconomyTo 60 mph (C&D)**Max Payload CapacityMax Towing Capacity4 Wheel Disc Brakes?Fully Boxed Frame?J.D. Power Quality & Reliability ScoreJ.D. Power Verified Consumer RatingMotorTrend Mid-Size RankC&D Rating
Chevy Colorado308 / 27518.5 / 256.1s1,543 lbs7,000 lbsYesYes8283#28.5
Ford Ranger270 / 31021 / 266.8s1,905 lbs7,500 lbsYesYes8583#57
GMC Canyon308 / 27518.5 / 256.3s1,578 lbs7,000 lbsYesYes7982#17
Jeep Gladiator285 / 26016.5 / 22.57.2s1,700 lbs (4x4, BiC)7,650 lbsYesYes8583#48.5
Nissan Frontier310 / 28118 / 247.4s1,610 lbs6,720 lbsYesYes8383#77.5
Toyota Tacoma278 / 26518 / 227.7s - 10.9s1,685 lbs6,800 lbsNoNo8182#66.5

All numbers based on gasoline engine options.
** All 0-60 times based on Car & Driver reported times, except Ranger and Tacoma which could not be found on their website. The reported figures for Ranger and Tacoma come from Ford or Toyota affiliate (dealership) press materials. Different dealers reported different figures (7.7 and 10.9) for Tacoma. Honda Ridgeline (which is not really a truck) took #3 in Motortrend's mid-size truck ratings.

Tacoma is not best-in-class in a single metric, not even quality and reliability (where it comes in second-to-last), a metric on which the brand has built its reputation.

As far as reviews go, it is dead last in Car & Driver's ratings, and only above Nissan in MotorTrend's rankings (and the 2022 Nissan Frontier was the first year of a complete redesign). Words like "old" and "ancient" get thrown around in the MT and C&D reviews of the 2022 Tacoma.

It is toward the bottom of the class in power and torque, while also sitting toward the bottom of class in fuel economy, and being worst-in-class in the sprint to 60mph, owing to its horrible transmission. The transfer case hangs down below the frame rails.

It is second-to-last in towing capacity and middle of the pack in payload capacity.

It is the only mid-size truck (the Honda Ridgeline is not a truck) that still uses a C-channel in part of the chassis, where every other competitor is using a fully-boxed chassis.

It is the only mid-size truck without four-wheel disc brakes, and the brakes are spongey and grabby.

The only metric that Tacoma may hold over its competition is resale value, and I would say that Gladiator may end up giving it a run for its money, as Wranglers hold their value especially well.

The numbers don't lie... This is all the result of Toyota resting on its laurels, ignoring the marketplace, ignoring innovation, and refusing to stay current for fear of change, because change might impact reliability.
 
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That depends……. Cara has a sticky note on her screen with your VIN - reminding her to keep you in the dark for another couple weeks. ?

Oh shit. I do this at work. I better check on my customer's part he ordered months ago that the factory still hasn't shipped.

The last time I checked it the expected ship date had passed and the factory wouldn't update it for me.

(I work with overhead cranes, if any one was curious)

I wonder if my customers feel the same way I do when their hoists still haven't shipped. Hmm. Shit, am I the Cara in this situation? ?
 

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Has this happened to anyone else? My build sheet now says,
Jeep Wrangler JL 2023 Orders - Check in here Screenshot_20221210-094448_OneDriv


It used to say,

Jeep Wrangler JL 2023 Orders - Check in here Screenshot_20221210-094358_OneDriv


I checked the site with my old VIN and was able to download that build sheet. My curiosity has me wondering if my build sheet is in the process of being generated. What do you all think?
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