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[Jeepmojave85]

I seem to have touched a nerve. You’re just proving my point about blind brand loyalty. ?

Let's examine the mid-size truck class for MY22 and look at their ability to do "truck things."

MY22 Truck	Power / Torque	Fuel Economy	To 60 mph (C&D)**	Max Payload Capacity	Max Towing Capacity	4 Wheel Disc Brakes?	Fully Boxed Frame?	J.D. Power Quality & Reliability Score	J.D. Power Verified Consumer Rating	MotorTrend Mid-Size Rank	C&D Rating
Chevy Colorado	308 / 275	18.5 / 25	6.1s	1,543 lbs	7,000 lbs	Yes	Yes	82	83	#2	8.5
Ford Ranger	270 / 310	21 / 26	6.8s	1,905 lbs	7,500 lbs	Yes	Yes	85	83	#5	7
GMC Canyon	308 / 275	18.5 / 25	6.3s	1,578 lbs	7,000 lbs	Yes	Yes	79	82	#1	7
Jeep Gladiator	285 / 260	16.5 / 22.5	7.2s	1,700 lbs (4x4, BiC)	7,650 lbs	Yes	Yes	85	83	#4	8.5
Nissan Frontier	310 / 281	18 / 24	7.4s	1,610 lbs	6,720 lbs	Yes	Yes	83	83	#7	7.5
Toyota Tacoma	278 / 265	18 / 22	7.7s - 10.9s	1,685 lbs	6,800 lbs	No	No	81	82	#6	6.5

All numbers based on gasoline engine options.
** All 0-60 times based on Car & Driver reported times, except Ranger and Tacoma which could not be found on their website. The reported figures for Ranger and Tacoma come from Ford or Toyota affiliate (dealership) press materials. Different dealers reported different figures (7.7 and 10.9) for Tacoma. Honda Ridgeline (which is not really a truck) took #3 in Motortrend's mid-size truck ratings.

Tacoma is not best-in-class in a single metric, not even quality and reliability (where it comes in second-to-last), a metric on which the brand has built its reputation.

As far as reviews go, it is dead last in Car & Driver's ratings, and only above Nissan in MotorTrend's rankings (and the 2022 Nissan Frontier was the first year of a complete redesign). Words like "old" and "ancient" get thrown around in the MT and C&D reviews of the 2022 Tacoma.

It is toward the bottom of the class in power and torque, while also sitting toward the bottom of class in fuel economy, and being worst-in-class in the sprint to 60mph, owing to its horrible transmission. The transfer case hangs down below the frame rails.

It is second-to-last in towing capacity and middle of the pack in payload capacity.

It is the only mid-size truck (the Honda Ridgeline is not a truck) that still uses a C-channel in part of the chassis, where every other competitor is using a fully-boxed chassis.

It is the only mid-size truck without four-wheel disc brakes, and the brakes are spongey and grabby.

The only metric that Tacoma may hold over its competition is resale value, and I would say that Gladiator may end up giving it a run for its money, as Wranglers hold their value especially well.

The numbers don't lie... This is all the result of Toyota resting on its laurels, ignoring the marketplace, ignoring innovation, and refusing to stay current for fear of change, because change might impact reliability.

I didn’t know my gladiator was rated so well, I love my Mojave and it’s been a blast to drive for the past year. How is the Canyon #1 with the worst consumer rating and quality rating? You nailed it on the Toyota stuff.

My mother in law insisted on buying a new Honda because “quality.” I told her to get out of 1980, lots of cars are great quality. People just blindly assume Honda and Toyota are the best cars on the road.

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[muttycollie]

another jeep code 4EU. anyone else with me?? and anyone know what it means, or previously gotten it

 

[Jeepin79]

Think of D status as an extension of C status. Your order is confirmed in C, but it does not yet have a VIN. This is your temporary window to make changes to the order. Once a VIN is assigned, you go into D status, and no changes can be made to the order. If you want to make a change at this point, you must place a new order. Once the VIN is issued, your order is still "Confirmed" but that confirmation is now a firm target, and this is where they start checking parts availability for your build.

I am in C status with my vin number and the dealer added the safety package to my order without having to reorder.

 

[PandaJL]

another jeep code 4EU. anyone else with me?? and anyone know what it means, or previously gotten it

I got this too, but no idea what it means. I had gotten a new code last week as well

 

[gatorag05]

I got this too, but no idea what it means. I had gotten a new code last week as well

I got the code as well. "low line model" is the code description. No idea what that actually means.

 

[muttycollie]

I got the code as well. "low line model" is the code description. No idea what that actually means.

…. doesn’t sound so good

 

[392OVRLND]

another jeep code 4EU. anyone else with me?? and anyone know what it means, or previously gotten it

That means “don’t push the fuses all the way down on this build”

 

[WheretheJLs]

Boo! I was waiting to see if your 3.6 Punkn got built on or before my 2.0 since we had the same order date.

I still have access to the trackers

 

[392OVRLND]

I am in C status with my vin number and the dealer added the safety package to my order without having to reorder.

I’d triple check your build sheet when it’s generated. Every dealer I have talked to has told me that once a VIN is issued, no changes are allowed. A VIN is issued when you are in D status (D is called “firm schedule: serial number is assigned.”).

Do you have a printout of the POC?

 

[ashegam]

oof. so lucky. i’m still waiting in scheduled 107 days

If it makes you feel better, same base spec as you without any options, 151 days and counting

 

[ek1]

160 days in C. Zero updates.

 

[EuroSVT]

Probably coincidence but the very same day I reached out to customer care, the vehicle went into production ?

 

[Strategist]

160 days in C. Zero updates.

Have you checked with your dealer to see what they have? Mine has given me the VIN, POC, and status of “D”.
I’ve been in “C” with the trackers for 136 days. I’m thinking some of us in the 392 group have run into allocation challenges like 392OVRLND has theorized. I’m okay with that. And no one at Jeep wants to say anything about allocation as being the culprit.
I kinda expect us to get lots of updates between now and the first of the year. Then shipping shortly after the first. I even wonder if they may already be built and in storage awaiting Jan 1.
I’ve decided that is a strong probability, so I’m not stressing about it like I was. ??

 

[392OVRLND]

So, here's something interesting... I got the Holy Grail (KZX - "Delivered") email from @NDRugby 's JeepTracker which, somehow, still seems to be functioning despite his neglect of all of us. Seriously, man, where are you? You're giving me abandonment issues. Come back, da-- errrr... man.

What is interesting is, as was mentioned weeks ago, Jeep took the "Delivered" slice off their tracker.

What is also interesting is that JeepTracker's email showed KZM and KZX updates at the same time. JeepTracker is showing "Delivered" and Jeep's Pizza Tracker is showing "Shipped" with TBD for Estimated Delivery.

Now, I know some of you may be thinking "how did your Jeep teleport to your dealer in California from Toledo?" Well, it did not. It was diverted from the factory to a local AEV dealer near AEV's headquarters to be retrieved by AEV, so it only had to go a quick jaunt by truck from the factory.

But, I just wanted to put this out there seeing as how there have been some interesting things going on lately in the trackers in terms of shipping / delivery updates.

Also, if you need any further proof that JeepTracker is generally the most up to date and reliable tracker... I've attached screenshots showing that "WaitingForJeep" has me in KZM status and "JeepOnOrder" still has me in KZ status...

Without further ado...

 

[Victory]

I got an interesting pop up on Jeep’s website today. $1000 bonus cash allowance. I had to put in my name, mailing address and email address, and they sent me an email with $1000 bonus cash.
the pop up said it was good on 2022 and 2023 models and listed them, the Wrangler was included. It also said must take delivery by 1/03/2023. The email I received though doesn’t say 2023, only 2022, and says take delivery by 2/08/2023, which shouldn’t be an issue, but hopefully it includes 2023 models as well.
It does say it can be used with other offers.

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