Rubicon sway bar questions

[Petey]

I was wondering if anyone here has rigged the stock electronic sway bar to their vehicle ( one that is not a Rubi)..by just using an electrical connection.
is the actuator powered by normal 12v or does it get some different electrical signal. Anyone here tried testing the terminals and might have an idea how to run it ?

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[CopperMtnGuy]

I just bought a rubi sway bar for my Sahara and did some research on it, it seems like no one has successfully rigged aftermarket electronics to work on it without frying the motor. Since the motors are so delicate and failure prone anyway, I'm just going to run it with one of these:
https://evomfg.com/products/nolimits-manual-rubicon-swaybar-disconnect-jk-jl-jt

It'll still make it super easy so disconnect and reconnect, compared to pulling the links or using a disconnecting link kit.

 

[Petey]

I just bought a rubi sway bar for my Sahara and did some research on it, it seems like no one has successfully rigged aftermarket electronics to work on it without frying the motor. Since the motors are so delicate and failure prone anyway, I'm just going to run it with one of these:
https://evomfg.com/products/nolimits-manual-rubicon-swaybar-disconnect-jk-jl-jt

It'll still make it super easy so disconnect and reconnect, compared to pulling the links or using a disconnecting link kit.

I didi the same.. also noticed that part numbers might be different across the engine options not sure if that means they're rated differently. I was hoping that the actuator might work on regular 12v but it doesn't seem to be the case then. I noticed the circuit board inside that casing ..man is that crazy or what.

 

[sstuner]

I also just picked up a Rubicon Front Swaybar disconnect and yes there is a lot of electronic features on that circuit card for safety reasons. Not sure what they all are, but I heard on a Rubi you can't disconnect in 2WD, over a certain MPH, etc. So I'll, probably go with a manual setup also on my JLUS for now.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

I also just picked up a Rubicon Front Swaybar disconnect and yes there is a lot of electronic features on that circuit card for safety reasons. Not sure what they all are, but I heard on a Rubi you can't disconnect in 2WD, over a certain MPH, etc. So I'll, probably go with a manual setup also on my JLUS for now.

2019 JLUR owner. Can confirm. If you shift out of 4Low or go above 15mph (I believe) it auto reconnects the Swaybar. There's a little message on the dash that says so when it happens. I believe you can disconnect it w/ a programmer like Tazer or JScan, but I don't really care enough to bother with that.
After crawling around in the dirt/ snow to fight with a manual disconnect on my TJ's, I don't think I'll ever run one of those again unless it's a trail only rig. I like the push of a button.

 

[sstuner]

Reading thru some older posts for the JK (looks like the JK and JL disconnects are the same), I noticed that a lot of failures of their sway bar disconnect is related to water intrusion into the unit. During the review of some YouTube videos I noticed no gasket or sealant on the body where the EVO disconnect is installed and also the EVO instructions don't mention gasket or sealant. When I install mine I will apply a thin bead of silicone just incase.

 

[Petey]

Reading thru some older posts for the JK (looks like the JK and JL disconnects are the same), I noticed that a lot of failures of their sway bar disconnect is related to water intrusion into the unit. During the review of some YouTube videos I noticed no gasket or sealant on the body where the EVO disconnect is installed and also the EVO instructions don't mention gasket or sealant. When I install mine I will apply a thin bead of silicone just incase.

from what i saw between the jk and jl (mind u that i dont have any side by side )that overall they are and bolt in however that connector on the jl's seems quite different and simpler

 

[Headbarcode]

2019 JLUR owner. Can confirm. If you shift out of 4Low or go above 15mph (I believe) it auto reconnects the Swaybar. There's a little message on the dash that says so when it happens. I believe you can disconnect it w/ a programmer like Tazer or JScan, but I don't really care enough to bother with that.
After crawling around in the dirt/ snow to fight with a manual disconnect on my TJ's, I don't think I'll ever run one of those again unless it's a trail only rig. I like the push of a button.

Yes, the Tazer has a "Sway kill" function that allows use of the disconnect in 2h/4h/4l and prevents reconnecting when exceeding the factory programmed speed limit. That feature is a close second to being able to use the rear locker in 2h and both lockers in 4h.

 

[Go_Galt]

Yes, the Tazer has a "Sway kill" function that allows use of the disconnect in 2h/4h/4l and prevents reconnecting when exceeding the factory programmed speed limit. That feature is a close second to being able to use the rear locker in 2h and both lockers in 4h.

This is the main reason I want a Tazer.

Ride is so much more compliant with a disco'd swaybar, and it's a real bummer that I can't haul ass on an easy/fast sand or dirt trail in 4h or 2h without it being connected.

 

[jessedacri]

Yes, the Tazer has a "Sway kill" function that allows use of the disconnect in 2h/4h/4l and prevents reconnecting when exceeding the factory programmed speed limit. That feature is a close second to being able to use the rear locker in 2h and both lockers in 4h.

This is the main reason I want a Tazer.

Ride is so much more compliant with a disco'd swaybar, and it's a real bummer that I can't haul ass on an easy/fast sand or dirt trail in 4h or 2h without it being connected.

I use swaykill every single time I'm on dirt and can't say enough good things about it as a feature. It's absolutely ridiculous that the factory swaybar disconnect can't just be permanently disconnected in 4H/4L. I cover a lot of miles on trail sometimes in 2H/4H and I want the swaybar to be disconnected the entire trip, all week/weekend until my tires hit pavement again. SwayKill is the only thing that does it for me.

That, coupled with the RK No Limits swaybar links I dont have to physically fuss with links, and they offer so much misalignment that I don't feel they restrict flex like the other aftermarket links do.

 

[Headbarcode]

This is the main reason I want a Tazer.

Ride is so much more compliant with a disco'd swaybar, and it's a real bummer that I can't haul ass on an easy/fast sand or dirt trail in 4h or 2h without it being connected.

Of the slew of modifications that I've made to my Jeep, the Tazer Mini has provided one of the biggest bangs for the buck.

 

[Headbarcode]

I use swaykill every single time I'm on dirt and can't say enough good things about it as a feature. It's absolutely ridiculous that the factory swaybar disconnect can't just be permanently disconnected in 4H/4L. I cover a lot of miles on trail sometimes in 2H/4H and I want the swaybar to be disconnected the entire trip, all week/weekend until my tires hit pavement again. SwayKill is the only thing that does it for me.

That, coupled with the RK No Limits swaybar links I dont have to physically fuss with links, and they offer so much misalignment that I don't feel they restrict flex like the other aftermarket links do.

Couldn't agree more! I had the same setup, which was awesome, before finally using the Tazer to delete the factory edisconnect after installing front and rear Antirocks. Gotta say, it's nice being able to go from highway to crawling and back again without even thinking about sway bars. Just sayin'. And yes, I'm one of the resident enablers.

 

[jessedacri]

This is the main reason I want a Tazer.

Ride is so much more compliant with a disco'd swaybar, and it's a real bummer that I can't haul ass on an easy/fast sand or dirt trail in 4h or 2h without it being connected.

Couldn't agree more! I had the same setup, which was awesome, before finally using the Tazer to delete the factory edisconnect after installing front and rear Antirocks. Gotta say, it's nice being able to go from highway to crawling and back again without even thinking about sway bars. Just sayin'. And yes, I'm one of the resident enablers.

Are there any disadvantages to the antirock off-road? In my head I feel that it would ultimately result in more resistance when flexing on obstacles but do you not notice this to be the case?

I've always been curious but kind of like the tech aspect of being able to hit a button and loosen up the rig for trail use. Until it breaks, at least.

 

[fuelfox4949]

pretty sure you can disconnect swaybar in 4h.
i did it this weekend but if you shut the jeep off and on like i do on the trails you have to hit the botton again and again.
however in 4lo it stays disconnected tell you reconnect it or go over 18 mph

 

[Petey]

I use swaykill every single time I'm on dirt and can't say enough good things about it as a feature. It's absolutely ridiculous that the factory swaybar disconnect can't just be permanently disconnected in 4H/4L. I cover a lot of miles on trail sometimes in 2H/4H and I want the swaybar to be disconnected the entire trip, all week/weekend until my tires hit pavement again. SwayKill is the only thing that does it for me.

That, coupled with the RK No Limits swaybar links I dont have to physically fuss with links, and they offer so much misalignment that I don't feel they restrict flex like the other aftermarket links do.

It would be nice to find out what kind of electrical signals are received trough the terminal attached to the bar when running sway kill . this would probably make it easier to rig it up onto a simple switch.

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