You bought the wrong vehicle.

[Heimkehr]

I'm 6'5" tall...

Oh well, it's a Jeep thing, if you wanted to be comfy, you should have bought another vehicle!!

I dig what you're saying, Greg, but let's not understate how challenging it can be for vertically awesome folks like you and I (I'm 6'4") to find vehicles that can reasonably accommodate us.

The Jeep, with its boxy aesthetic and additional headroom provided by the design of the soft top, gets me reasonably close to where I want to be. One pleasant surprise was the perceived, if modest, increase in legroom that occurred after I installed the Desert Does It front seat jacker. Maybe that can work for your ergonomic requirements, too.

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[ForgottenTaco]

I’m too lazy to retype what I did on the other useless thread so here’s a screen shot.

 

[Whaler27]

My wife never takes her Sahara off the pavement but it's her money so she bought it. Let people buy it if they can afford it. She already paid it off so I don't care what she does with it.

I’ll agree and go one step further. I don’t care what other people buy even when they can’t afford it.

 

[2nd 392]

What do I do if I have a small and can’t afford a Porsche? Asking for, uhhh, a friend, of course.

Read the fine print- call and ask for “Tiny”, — he should be “familiar” with you’re — uhh— friend’s “shortcomings” and advise.

 

[THAW]

What do I do if I have a small and can’t afford a Porsche? Asking for, uhhh, a friend, of course.

Bigger tires.

 

[NWJeepr]

I just realized, with this harness bar, I can't lean my seat back. Also, I'll never be able to install those Big Boy Seat Brackets.


I'm 6'5" tall...

This is me sitting up straight, with the seat all the way back...

This is me slouched down with the seat all the way back.


I didn't really think that one through.

Oh well, it's a Jeep thing, if you wanted to be comfy, you should have bought another vehicle!!

Does the bank know what you've done with their Jeep? I hope you own it! lol

 

[JJ_WA]

I’m too lazy to retype what I did on the other useless thread so here’s a screen shot.

 

[2nd 392]

I just realized, with this harness bar, I can't lean my seat back. Also, I'll never be able to install those Big Boy Seat Brackets.


I'm 6'5" tall...

This is me sitting up straight, with the seat all the way back...

This is me slouched down with the seat all the way back.


I didn't really think that one through.

Oh well, it's a Jeep thing, if you wanted to be comfy, you should have bought another vehicle!!

So you’ve got leg room issues ?

Couldn’t find it but I recall a pic of the front seat removed and him driving from the back seat….. bad vehicle choice ?

 

[greige]

Hi, I'm Dusty. And I am a condescending jerk. Just wanted to get that out of the way before I continue. This post is my opinion, not a statement of fact. And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me. I'm okay with that.

If you bought a Wrangler and you do not go off road, you bought the wrong vehicle. There are so many posts here, with owners complaining about things that are just inherent to how a Wrangler is constructed. "My Jeep rides worse than ____, my gas mileage is bad after lift and tires (duh), it's noisy inside, my steering is funny, etc, etc..."

Not all of these posts are uncalled for, but some of the people have a rather unreasonable expectation. And some wish for Jeep to change the Wrangler to be more in line to what they are expecting. That's where I don't agree with folks. Several times people have expressed the wish for the Wrangler to have IFS, fixed windshields, even a fixed top. If that's what you want, those vehicles already exist. There are other options from most manufacturers that fit those categories. But there is only one vehicle like the Wrangler. The "quirks and features" to quote Doug Demuro from YouTube are what makes the Wrangler unique and desirable. It's the only SUV still available with a solid axle. It's the only one that has a folding windshield. One of only 2 that has a removable top. The body on frame construction makes it heavy, but rugged. The recirculating ball steering has a heavy feel and combined with the sfa can have rough handling and steering problems compared to IFS. But it's much stronger and easier to modify for improved performance off road. The problems that most people complain about, are part and parcel with the attributes that make the Wrangler such a desirable vehicle to people who want to use their Jeep off road on the trails. But it makes it a bad choice for a daily commute vehicle if you don't intend to ever go wheeling. Especially if you have modified it for larger tires to look cool, but did not consider how that would impact the daily drive.

Rant over. Again, this is just words from a judgmental prick. Feel free to completely ignore me. But maybe, just maybe after reading this you will think about what I wrote and if there is a kernel of truth to it.

Wranglers and are one of the two 4 door convertibles that I know of. That gets a lot of attention.

 

[Remorseless]

“If you’re gay, and a guy has a big one, is that like, a good thing? Or no?” -Travis Kelce

 

[jeepingib]

Welcome to the fun house folks. Great thing about threads like this, reading all the opinions about an opinion. I even warned people that I'm a prick. Someone who others should generally not value the opinion of. But it sure ruffled some feathers. We've had everything from "my money my choice, F U" I'm paraphrasing here. Defensive posts about road conditions, and winter driving, to equating this point to the same as corvette or Porsche owners who don't "race" their sports cars, or haul anything in a truck.

Which I'm glad someone brought up. It's exactly like that! But here's the point you are missing that corvette and even the Porsche are sports cars, designed to be driven in a sporty manner. They aren't race cars designed for the track. Those exist as well, but let's not get too sidetracked. So yeah, if someone buys a sports car, and doesn't drive it in a sporty manner, I'd definitely say they bought the wrong vehicle and make fun of them. Just imagine the absurdity of someone paying for a tuned car with gobs of power, incredibly tight suspension with massive sway bars, low profile tires with stiff sidewalls, and an aggressive compound tire that grips like crazy, and then uses it only as a commuter. Never breaks the speed limit, doesn't plan trips with scenic curvy roads, and never revs the engine above 4k. That would be pretty stupid. Or worse, to then complain about how rough the ride is when driving it on the road. Or how fast the tires wear, or gas mileage... You see where I'm going with this by now. Those are all asinine things to do. Same rules apply to folks who buy a truck and are afraid of scratching the bed. If you aren't going to do truck stuff, then what's the point?

But yet those same kind of things happen here and most don't even bat an eye.

"It's my money, I'll spend it however I want!" You are absolutely right. I am not making your payment or any decisions in your house. Thank God for that. But I am definitely going to talk shit and judge you. You don't have to be okay with it.

"In the American culture we express ourselves with what we drive." Don't recall if this one was in here, but it's been said before. Driving a Wrangler doesn't make you cool. In fact it's become something that has been done so much, that people are making fun of Wrangler owners that are doing it just for the attention. The Donut group instagram is hilarious with all the Jeep hate. The angry grills, ducks, goofy tall lifts, 20s there is just too much ammunition for people to mock.

I know that a lot of people are going to be cranky after this thread. I'm okay with that.

Just remember, I did warn you in the very beginning.

 

[jeepingib]

Wranglers and are one of the two 4 door convertibles that I know of. That gets a lot of attention.

I really miss the Nissan Murano Cross Cabriolet. That was my favorite vehicle to recommend to people who used that as a point. It was an atrocious vehicle. But it rode nice, was available with seating for 4 adults and had a convertible top.

 

[Remorseless]

Welcome to the fun house folks. Great thing about threads like this, reading all the opinions about an opinion. I even warned people that I'm a prick. Someone who others should generally not value the opinion of. But it sure ruffled some feathers. We've had everything from "my money my choice, F U" I'm paraphrasing here. Defensive posts about road conditions, and winter driving, to equating this point to the same as corvette or Porsche owners who don't "race" their sports cars, or haul anything in a truck.

Which I'm glad someone brought up. It's exactly like that! But here's the point you are missing that corvette and even the Porsche are sports cars, designed to be driven in a sporty manner. They aren't race cars designed for the track. Those exist as well, but let's not get too sidetracked. So yeah, if someone buys a sports car, and doesn't drive it in a sporty manner, I'd definitely say they bought the wrong vehicle and make fun of them. Just imagine the absurdity of someone paying for a tuned car with gobs of power, incredibly tight suspension with massive sway bars, low profile tires with stiff sidewalls, and an aggressive compound tire that grips like crazy, and then uses it only as a commuter. Never breaks the speed limit, doesn't plan trips with scenic curvy roads, and never revs the engine above 4k. That would be pretty stupid. Or worse, to then complain about how rough the ride is when driving it on the road. Or how fast the tires wear, or gas mileage... You see where I'm going with this by now. Those are all asinine things to do. Same rules apply to folks who buy a truck and are afraid of scratching the bed. If you aren't going to do truck stuff, then what's the point?

But yet those same kind of things happen here and most don't even bat an eye.

"It's my money, I'll spend it however I want!" You are absolutely right. I am not making your payment or any decisions in your house. Thank God for that. But I am definitely going to talk shit and judge you. You don't have to be okay with it.

"In the American culture we express ourselves with what we drive." Don't recall if this one was in here, but it's been said before. Driving a Wrangler doesn't make you cool. In fact it's become something that has been done so much, that people are making fun of Wrangler owners that are doing it just for the attention. The Donut group instagram is hilarious with all the Jeep hate. The angry grills, ducks, goofy tall lifts, 20s there is just too much ammunition for people to mock.

I know that a lot of people are going to be cranky after this thread. I'm okay with that.

Just remember, I did warn you in the very beginning.

But where do you fall on whether or not gay dudes like monstrously large penises?

 

[jeepingib]

Hyundai almost built something

 

[jeepingib]

But where do you fall on whether or not gay dudes like monstrously large penises?

That's between them and their S2k driving lovers

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