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Ran to the liquor store the other day and a friendly tow truck driver stopped me to tell me that I needed to adjust my winch so it didn't wear/break. He dipped pretty quick so I didn't get a chance to ask what he meant. Currently we store it taut but not tight so it doesn't rattle around or rub. Should it be looser? Does it not matter that much in the long run?

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Most cover synthetic lines up for better life expectancy.
 
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We do have the storage bag..I'll cover it up for winter after the last deep clean. We're going to use it this weekend. What about line tautness? Leave it loose? Or is it okay to have it a bit taut?
 

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Ran to the liquor store the other day and a friendly tow truck driver stopped me to tell me that I needed to adjust my winch so it didn't wear/break. He dipped pretty quick so I didn't get a chance to ask what he meant. Currently we store it taut but not tight so it doesn't rattle around or rub. Should it be looser? Does it not matter that much in the long run?

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Your biggest problems with that setup is sunlight (UV) and abrasion from dirt. He probably meant you want to cover it to keep it clean and shaded.
 
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Okay thanks - will definitely keep it covered up as much as we can. It didn't sound like that's what he was alluding to in the moment, but it also sounds like we're fine storing it as is + cover.
 

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He was probably concerned about the exposed synthetic rope extending past the fairlead. That's taking a lot of abuse from sun and road/trail dirt. You can store it like that, but get a winch rope sleeve so the sleeve takes the abuse from sun and dirt instead of the line. Ideally you shouldn't see any part of the synthetic line when it's not in active use.
 
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Great to know - thank you! Will get it covered up asap.
 

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Are synthetic ropes more common than steel rope? Newb question, but we pick up our first ever Jeep next week….
 

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Synthetic is definitely more common than steel these days. It's stronger, lighter, and most would argue safer as a result. You also won't get holes stabbed in your hands by stray strands like a steel cable. It's drawbacks are abrasion resistance and UV light sensitivity (although I think that may be over played). We have a thimble on ours and a sleeve at the end, which does cover a good portion of the end. No other cover and it has been going strong for years.
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Synthetic is definitely more common than steel these days. It's stronger, lighter, and most would argue safer as a result. You also won't get holes stabbed in your hands by stray strands like a steel cable. It's drawbacks are abrasion resistance and UV light sensitivity (although I think that may be over played). We have a thimble on ours and a sleeve at the end, which does cover a good portion of the end. No other cover and it has been going strong for years.
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Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't sure if synthetic snapback was a concern for recovery equipment....
 

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Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't sure if synthetic snapback was a concern for recovery equipment....
It definitely still is a concern, but not nearly as much as steel cable. In a failure, the added mass of the steel creates much more inertia and therefore causes far more damage in the failures I've seen over the years.
 

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It definitely still is a concern, but not nearly as much as steel cable. In a failure, the added mass of the steel creates much more inertia and therefore causes far more damage in the failures I've seen over the years.
In a past life I handled weapons (torpedoes, missiles, etc...) in the Navy, so I'm familiar with wire rope. I also handled mooring lines, and was aware of the dangers of synthetic snap back. I'm not doubting your experience, but I'd think that synthetic rope would be more of a danger. Again, I'm not familiar with failures of either type (wire rope or synthetic).
 

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Ran to the liquor store the other day and a friendly tow truck driver stopped me to tell me that I needed to adjust my winch so it didn't wear/break. He dipped pretty quick so I didn't get a chance to ask what he meant. Currently we store it taut but not tight so it doesn't rattle around or rub. Should it be looser? Does it not matter that much in the long run?

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He was probably concerned about the exposed synthetic rope extending past the fairlead. That's taking a lot of abuse from sun and road/trail dirt. You can store it like that, but get a winch rope sleeve so the sleeve takes the abuse from sun and dirt instead of the line. Ideally you shouldn't see any part of the synthetic line when it's not in active use.

@Reinen hit it on the head. That bit of rope hanging out of the fairlead is getting cooked everyday the sun is out and it is typically the reason why you'll see synthetic ropes break within the first 12-18" of the hook.

That's one of the reasons that the Factor 55 thimble and Pro ends are so popular, it lets you suck the winch rope in all the way to protect it.

Random look out in our parking lot this morning....

Flatlink E with Rope Guard:

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Prolink XXL:

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Ultrahook:

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There are multiple different ends and they come in different colors too. You can check out the whole line of Factor 55 products here: https://www.northridge4x4.com/brand/factor-55


At minimum you want to slide your rope guard out over the rope that is exposed:

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In a past life I handled weapons (torpedoes, missiles, etc...) in the Navy, so I'm familiar with wire rope. I also handled mooring lines, and was aware of the dangers of synthetic snap back. I'm not doubting your experience, but I'd think that synthetic rope would be more of a danger. Again, I'm not familiar with failures of either type (wire rope or synthetic).
I thing odds of a failure are higher with synthetic due to its ability to be cut rather easily. Assuming proper rigging, the failure won’t send any projectile aside from the rope itself. Still dangerous, but not enough mass or inertia to cause sever damage especially when you are talking 3/8” to 1/2” diameter under normal winch loads. I’ve broken 2 over the years, with no winch blanket, and neither so much as scratched the front bumper. I’ve seen a steel cable failure and the vehicle needed a new radiator. Even scarier is the non-linear whipping effect caused by the steel cables coiled “memory”. Synthetic breaks and flies in a straight path with the winch and the anchor point. I’m not standing in that path either way, but I’d definitely give steel a much wider berth under heavy load. As far as thimbles go, spend what you want but the $40 Amazon special has served me well under hard pulls with no deformation of any kind.
 

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... I also handled mooring lines, and was aware of the dangers of synthetic snap back. I'm not doubting your experience, but I'd think that synthetic rope would be more of a danger.
There are many different types of synthetics, with wildly different characteristics.

Mooring lines (and anchor lines) are deliberately constructed of nylon, specifically for its high stretch characteristics, which makes snap back a much larger concern.

Winch lines are constructed of min-stretch dyneema which has an extremely low stretch coefficient.
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