Tire weight in decision process?

[aeonixx1001]

I think the Moral of the story is: If you change Wheel and tire size, ensure everything else on your jeep supports it. Height, rubbing, weight, axles, drive lines, etc. In other words "Dont jack your JL up 6 inches with some 40's and no other mods to support, you wont like it and will suffer the ramifications.

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[jeepingib]

I put together a worksheet to try to determine some of the weights and costs of some 37s I then calculated a formula based on weight and price to get an idea of value per lb of lightness. The Coursers are by far the lightest, but I know almost nothing about them. The Patagonias are light and cheap, but I've heard of quite a few issues with them. Yokohama is a brand that I've known some folks to run and I'm considering them the most right now. 76 per tire is still pretty light.

BRAND	MODEL	SIZE	HEIGHT	WIDTH	DEPTH	WEIGHT	PRICE	Price/2xWeight
Milestar	Patagonia	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	18/32"	72	273	982.80
Mastercraft	Courser MXT	37x12.5R17	36.69"	13.1"	21/32"	69	300	1035.00
Yokohama	Geo MT G003	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13.1"	21/32"	76.1	312	1187.16
Yokohama	Geo X-MT	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	21/32"	80.2	328	1315.28
Firestone	Destination MT2	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	79	338	1335.10
M/T	Deegan	37x12.5R17	36.7"	13.1"	21/32"	73	370	1350.50
Cooper	STT PRO	37x12.5R17	36.77"	13"	22/32"	75	368	1380.00
BFG	MT KM3	37x12.5R17	36.5"	12.5"	18/32"	74	379	1402.30
General	Grabber X3	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	79.7	357	1422.65
M/T	Baja MTZ	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	22/32"	75	386	1447.50
Milestar	Patagonia Black	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	18/32"	78	373	1454.70
Goodyear	MTR	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	75	395	1481.25
Falken	Wildpeak MT	37x12.5R17	36.7"	12.9"	21/32"	81.8	363	1484.67
Toyo	Open MT	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	84	364	1528.80
M/T	Baja Boss	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	22/32"	79	397	1568.15
ProComp	MT2	37x12.5R17	36.9"	13.3"	22/32"	83	380	1577.00
Nitto	Trail MT	37x12.5R17	36.85"	13.43"	21/32"	84.8	378	1602.72
Nitto	Mud Grap	37x13.5R17	37.05"	14.57"	21/32"	97	387	1876.95
BFG	Krawler	37x12.5R17	37"		22/32"	80	583	2332.00

 

[DanW]

I put together a worksheet to try to determine some of the weights and costs of some 37s I then calculated a formula based on weight and price to get an idea of value per lb of lightness. The Coursers are by far the lightest, but I know almost nothing about them. The Patagonias are light and cheap, but I've heard of quite a few issues with them. Yokohama is a brand that I've known some folks to run and I'm considering them the most right now. 76 per tire is still pretty light.

BRAND	MODEL	SIZE	HEIGHT	WIDTH	DEPTH	WEIGHT	PRICE	Price/2xWeight
Milestar	Patagonia	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	18/32"	72	273	982.80
Mastercraft	Courser MXT	37x12.5R17	36.69"	13.1"	21/32"	69	300	1035.00
Yokohama	Geo MT G003	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13.1"	21/32"	76.1	312	1187.16
Yokohama	Geo X-MT	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	21/32"	80.2	328	1315.28
Firestone	Destination MT2	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	79	338	1335.10
M/T	Deegan	37x12.5R17	36.7"	13.1"	21/32"	73	370	1350.50
Cooper	STT PRO	37x12.5R17	36.77"	13"	22/32"	75	368	1380.00
BFG	MT KM3	37x12.5R17	36.5"	12.5"	18/32"	74	379	1402.30
General	Grabber X3	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	79.7	357	1422.65
M/T	Baja MTZ	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	22/32"	75	386	1447.50
Milestar	Patagonia Black	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	18/32"	78	373	1454.70
Goodyear	MTR	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	75	395	1481.25
Falken	Wildpeak MT	37x12.5R17	36.7"	12.9"	21/32"	81.8	363	1484.67
Toyo	Open MT	37x12.5R17	36.8"	12.5"	21/32"	84	364	1528.80
M/T	Baja Boss	37x12.5R17	36.8"	13"	22/32"	79	397	1568.15
ProComp	MT2	37x12.5R17	36.9"	13.3"	22/32"	83	380	1577.00
Nitto	Trail MT	37x12.5R17	36.85"	13.43"	21/32"	84.8	378	1602.72
Nitto	Mud Grap	37x13.5R17	37.05"	14.57"	21/32"	97	387	1876.95
BFG	Krawler	37x12.5R17	37"		22/32"	80	583	2332.00

Btw, my brother had a set of those Mastercraft Courser MTs and loved them. They were on his YJ. He didn´t do any heavy off-roading, though, so I doubt we could speak to durability, but I´ve never heard of anyone complaining about them, either.

WTH with the Nitto Mud Grappler? I can´t imagine what they are doing with their construction that weighs so darned much.

 

[Gringostarr]

Even with a Diesel power plant weight was a huge factor for me since I'm already pushing that much more engine/exhaust weight from a standstill over the 3.6/2.0 which is why initially I went with take-off rubicon wheels and 33" Toyo ATIII since the Mopar diesel lift wasn't out yet. So far I've liked the ATIII's even though they weren't my first choice (Geolander X-AT were but they are comically heavy) however being patient and running through a set of 33's is letting me see how the mechanics of the new engine shake out before I do the major upgrades I have planned like a full undercarriage aluminum skid plate, lift, and finally upgrade to 34's.

 

[InvertedLogic]

Even with a Diesel power plant weight was a huge factor for me since I'm already pushing that much more engine/exhaust weight from a standstill over the 3.6/2.0 which is why initially I went with take-off rubicon wheels and 33" Toyo ATIII since the Mopar diesel lift wasn't out yet. So far I've liked the ATIII's even though they weren't my first choice (Geolander X-AT were but they are comically heavy) however being patient and running through a set of 33's is letting me see how the mechanics of the new engine shake out before I do the major upgrades I have planned like a full undercarriage aluminum skid plate, lift, and finally upgrade to 34's.

How have the AT3s treated you? I think they're up next for me. I see that they have a 35x11.50x17 in a load range C that's comparable in weight to a KO2.

 

[Gringostarr]

How have the AT3s treated you? I think they're up next for me. I see that they have a 35x11.50x17 in a load range C that's comparable in weight to a KO2.

They’re not bad. I did a road trip from LA to Denver and back and they were great on road with wind noise drowning out tire noise. Only did a gravel trail to get to a campsite and a proper 5 mile stretch of trail to get to another with only complaint being that the treads won’t really eject rocks until you’re either at highway speeds or pick them out yourself.

I only have 4k miles on them right now so no clue how they will be in a year or two but for now I’d have no problem sticking with the AT3’s when it’s time to upsize... unless of course the X-AT’s start coming in C load range by then.

 

[shekmark]

I went with Duratracs 35 . They are one of the lightest. Almost kept my stock wheels because they are very light, but changed my mind and bought AEV when they were on sale.

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