This easy drain plug looks much safer

[Rhinebeck01]

It does matter - the extension on the plug gave the impact more leverage. It wasn't a big impact - the textured sides of the plug cap were barely scratched, but that extra amount protruding meant it torqued the plug more than a direct impact on the stock plug would have.

The point is whether you have a stock oil drain plug or an aftermarket oil drain valve and no skid plate you are at risk if you do not have a skid plate.

Your post made it sound like an oil drain valve was a negative thing which it is not...
WHy... because again, IF you have a skid plate the pan and all is protected..

Learning curve ... You rock crawl you should have a skid plate in place or your oil pan and oil pan plug are fair game so to speak.

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[Wraif]

I have done more oil changes in my life than I can count and I just don't see the point in these devices. When I crawl under they I am aways wiping things down and checking things out. I have a garage that's a shop and not a showroom and a couple spilled drips will never be noticed, maybe that's the difference.

Do they save a significant amount of time or mess?

Yes, I also have done MANY oil changes on many different Jeeps over the years. Since I got my first Fumoto I have been hooked. I almost never use my oil drain pan anymore, only if I’m doing diffs or trans case. I attach the hose stick it in an old jug and it done. No more wearing rubber gloves, no more oil running down my arm, no more dropped oil pan plugs. It is just SO MUCH EASIER. They are on everything I own, except the Harley, it doesn’t look as nice as a chrome plug.

 

[Wraif]

Gonna be the boomer and say an aftermarket drain plug on any Wrangler is a solution looking for a nonexistent issue.

It's a single low-torque bolt. Anything else is adding unnecessary complexity.

It’s not like it’s a computer controlled, air actuated technological terror. It’s simple, easy and very non complicated. It makes the job so much easier, and MUCH less messy. I don’t have to worry about getting a cross breeze come by and blow the stream of oil coming out all over my garage or my driveway. I can literally do an oil change anywhere with only a 1/2” socket to get the plate off of my skids to access the Fumoto valve.

 

[Wraif]

Unless you store the plug with the tube perfectly straight (not curled at all), guess what happens? You have to stay there and hold the tube, otherwise it sends the oil well away from your drain pan.

I made a small oil collector jig out of PVC tubing a small piece of plywood(really small), and 1/2of an old quart oil jug. When I finish the oil change I put the hose into the PVC tubing which is attached to the plywood vertically, and it drains down into the 1/2 oil jug that is hanger from a screw in the plywood. So, even less mess.

 

[Overkill]

Yes, I also have done MANY oil changes on many different Jeeps over the years. Since I got my first Fumoto I have been hooked. I almost never use my oil drain pan anymore, only if I’m doing diffs or trans case. I attach the hose stick it in an old jug and it done. No more wearing rubber gloves, no more oil running down my arm, no more dropped oil pan plugs. It is just SO MUCH EASIER. They are on everything I own, except the Harley, it doesn’t look as nice as a chrome plug.

I can see it saving a mess when draining the oil pan, but how do you keep from making a mess when pulling the oil filter on something other than the 3.6L? My 2.0L that I had and my 6.4L both have the oil Filter underneath and oil runs down them worse than I have ever had it do from the drain plugs. Definitely have to have gloves and/or get oil down your arm.

 

[ChoSunJuan]

Will the magnetic version eventually clog up? I don't see how you can clean off any metal debris without removing the plug.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Received it last night. It is a well built product, guys. And I love the mechanism. Even if the cap falls due to some crazy vibration or something, the oil won't leak. For the oil to flow you have to push and keep holding that thingy with the drain hose thingy or some other thingy. So oil leak is super unlikely.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Guys but do understand, oil leak is possible mathematically according to the infinite monkey theorem. Given infinite time and infinite volcano eruptions and erosions, nature will surely come up with a small rock that would be identical in size and shape to that hose thingy. And if that little rock flies into that spot and gets stuck there, you will lose all the oil and your engine will be ruined.

 

[Odyssey USA]

Currently have a Votex magnetic plug. It happened to be in during my rocker failure and subsequent cam lobes getting wiped. The tech noticed the debris on the plug when changing the oil. When something like this happens, there’s metal floating around and I’m not necessarily worried about anything after the filter.

Before the filter, there’s nothing to keep that debris from getting drawn into the oil pump. I haven’t had a 3.6 pump apart yet but I hope to soon. I’m going to look into it because I’m doing head gaskets and since the timing cover is off, I’ll be swapping all gears and timing chains so the upper oil pan has to come off to get the oil pump chain and primary chain off. Anyway, I’m curious to find if I find any damage inside. Gerotor pumps with cam in block cams getting wiped can show damage so I just want to check and the price is low. I’ll be able to check/clean the pickup screen too.

I like the idea of a low profile valve like this but would like to keep a high temperature neodymium magnet down there though. Maybe put it just above the drain but don’t think the debris would travel well from the lower oil pan wall, back toward the end of the valve’s threads, and out the valve. Maybe a front location for an exterior magnet would work better? Anyway, I like the idea of a magnet to keep tabs on what’s going. It doesn’t always give enough warning, like in my case only 200 miles from tick to being wiped, but hopefully it’ll catch some debris the pump would have sucked up.

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Currently have a Votex magnetic plug. It happened to be in during my rocker failure and subsequent cam lobes getting wiped. The tech noticed the debris on the plug when changing the oil. When something like this happens, there’s metal floating around and I’m not necessarily worried about anything after the filter.

Before the filter, there’s nothing to keep that debris from getting drawn into the oil pump. I have had a 3.6 pump apart yet but I hope to soon. I’m going to look into it because I’m doing head gaskets and since the timing cover is off, I’ll be swapping all gears and timing chains so the upper oil pan has to come off to get the oil pump chain and primary chain off. Anyway, I’m curious to find if I find any damage inside. Gerotor pumps with cam in block cams getting wiped can show damage so I just want to check and the price is low. I’ll be able to check/clean the pickup screen too.

I like the idea of a low profile valve like this but would like to keep a high temperature neodymium magnet down there though. Maybe put it just above the drain but don’t think the debris would travel well from the lower oil pan wall, back toward the end of the valve’s threads, and out the valve. Maybe a front location for an exterior magnet would work better? Anyway, I like the idea of a magnet to keep tabs on what’s going. It doesn’t always give enough warning, like in my case only 200 miles from tick to being wiped, but hopefully it’ll catch some debris the pump would have sucked up.

I also have the magnetic drain plug on right now, and I did it to see if 0w40 does any harm, wish me luck, I hope it comes out super clean

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Solid product

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