The Hemi is back

[ek1]

I'd go from my 392 Wrangler to a 392 Gladiator, but not at $100K+ they're going to want for it.

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[TrailScooter]

It's a bunch of money. Take a Rubicon X and charge an extra $30k for a beast of a V8.

A Magnuson supercharger on the 3.6 makes more power than the hemi... Its only 10 grand installed..

 

[crudesolo]

Jeep doesn’t have the stones to put the Hemi in the 2 door. Prove me wrong Jeep.

 

[TrailScooter]

Jeep doesn’t have the stones to put the Hemi in the 2 door. Prove me wrong Jeep.

You forgot to make the chicken noises.

 

[Heimkehr]

Jeep doesn’t have the stones to put the Hemi in the 2 door. Prove me wrong Jeep.

The JL is comparatively light. It doesn't need a modern V8. With ever-stricter CAFE requirements in force, that's always going to be part of the decision process. This isn't the era of CJs and vastly underpowered small blocks.

 

[2nd 392]

Jeep doesn’t have the stones to put the Hemi in the 2 door. Prove me wrong Jeep.

It doesn’t look good for the 2 dr when the only Bronco 2 dr offering the V6 for 25 is the “Stroppe Edition” … from $75,635 (B&P). Eliminating incentive, at least the incentive for a reasonably priced, non special model V8.

 

[R3TRO]

Random thoughts...

Had the 5.7 in a 2013 Durango RT and it felt underpowered. I blame the transmission / gearing and weight.

Had the 5.7 in a 2014 Challenger RT 6spd manual and it felt underpowered. I blame it again on the gearing and the weight.

Had the 5.7 in a 2017 Ram 2dr with tow package (3.92 gears). Was perfect balance of power. If you pressed the 'tow' button would disable 4cyl mode.

 

[Heimkehr]

A family member has the 5.7L in his WK2 Trailhawk, paired with the ZF 8HP. With Sport mode selected, that SOB can really get down the road.

 

[2nd 392]

A family member has the 5.7L in his WK2 Trailhawk, paired with the ZF 8HP. With Sport mode selected, that SOB can really get down the road.

Some are incorrectly dissatisfied with the engine, when it’s the computer. Sport mode increases throttle response, reducing or eliminating torque management, raises shift points, reduces shift time, and disables MDS. It also tightens the suspension on my SRT. Track mode is a higher level but the suspension is too tight for comfort. The older Rams had an unofficial way to disable the torque management for much better performance. My son had a 5.7 but I don’t recall how he said to do it or the cutoff year. He was upset because his new one (at the time) wouldn’t like his friends a year or two older would.

 

[R3TRO]

Some are incorrectly dissatisfied with the engine, when it’s the computer. Sport mode increases throttle response, reducing or eliminating torque management, raises shift points, reduces shift time, and disables MDS. It also tightens the suspension on my SRT. Track mode is a higher level but the suspension is too tight for comfort. The older Rams had an unofficial way to disable the torque management for much better performance. My son had a 5.7 but I don’t recall how he said to do it or the cutoff year. He was upset because his new one (at the time) wouldn’t like his friends a year or two older would.

Pretty sure it's how I did it... just press the 'traction control' and 'tow/haul' button and that disables MDS and torque management and changes your shift points and gives you engine braking. My Ram was a 2017.

 

[2nd 392]

Pretty sure it's how I did it... just press the 'traction control' and 'tow/haul' button and that disables MDS and torque management and changes your shift points and gives you engine braking. My Ram was a 2017.

His was quite a bit older, I forget the year but it replaced his 98 Dakota that had 328K mi. He was pissed when the torque management couldn’t be disabled like his friend’s. Didn’t keep it long, traded it in on a used diesel F-250. Uhh, a POS 6.0 that took ~$12K worth of bulletproofing and upgrades to make it a good truck but, It has been ever since.

 

[axhoaxho]

I missed my RAM Rebel with the 5.7L HEMI with Mopar cat-back exhaust. If Jeep puts the 5.7L HEMI in the Gladiator, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[hemiblas]

Random thoughts...

Had the 5.7 in a 2013 Durango RT and it felt underpowered. I blame the transmission / gearing and weight.

Had the 5.7 in a 2014 Challenger RT 6spd manual and it felt underpowered. I blame it again on the gearing and the weight.

Had the 5.7 in a 2017 Ram 2dr with tow package (3.92 gears). Was perfect balance of power. If you pressed the 'tow' button would disable 4cyl mode.

I had a 5.7 ram with the old 6 speed auto, which was really a 5 speed with 2, 2nd gears and wasnt that impressed at 6000 feet elevation even with the 3.92 gears. It was ok, but really got sluggish when I went from 32s to 33s. I bet the 5.7 with the 8 speed and 3.92 gears is a monster in comparison.

It doesn’t look good for the 2 dr when the only Bronco 2 dr offering the V6 for 25 is the “Stroppe Edition” … from $75,635 (B&P). Eliminating incentive, at least the incentive for a reasonably priced, non special model V8.

I better keep my 2 door 2023 Bronco with the v6 then.....It actually runs pretty well.

I actually like the 2.0 turbo with the 4.10s in my Rubis....Maybe something like a 2.3 turbo would be a little better, but I'd take a 5.7 in a 2 door any day of the week. That would be enough to get me back into a dealership.

 

[Rubi392jp]

https://www.motor1.com/news/754483/stellantis-new-hemi-v8-engines/

Reports are the Hemi is coming back, including supercharged versions. I guess it's a combination of the departure of Tavares plus anticipated roll back of strict fuel economy rules.

It’s yet to be seen whether it will be continued in the wrangler. If it comes to fruition, I feel bad for those that purchased a final edition model, believing that it was going to be the end, especially for those that bought the 24 version. However, they really didn’t spend that much more than they would have for a non-final edition model. And while you might blame it on the change in leadership, still kind of cheesy that they came out with the final edition and they might very possibly continue a V8 model anyway. Although maybe it won’t be a 6.4 and in that case, it was a final addition. In any event, I purchased my 24 392 Rubicon in September 2023, and had an inside line on the fact that 24 was supposed to be the final year. Despite the fact that it wasn’t, I’m thrilled to have one.

 

[Rubi392jp]

https://www.motor1.com/news/754483/stellantis-new-hemi-v8-engines/

Reports are the Hemi is coming back, including supercharged versions. I guess it's a combination of the departure of Tavares plus anticipated roll back of strict fuel economy rules.

On another note, I’m also thrilled to see what they might do and what it might be if they do re-introduce or continue with the V8 in the Wrangler. Never know, might be trading up!

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