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I've wanted a kill switch on my Jeep since buying it last October. After reading about people doing or inquiring about it on this forum, and some on youtube, I finally went ahead with the process.


Of course these things are simply to make a theft more inconvenient. The more inconvenient it is, the more likely they'll move on. And even if they're towing, there's still simple things to mitigate that as well. While I prefer to back into a space and driveway, if I drive straight in, and crank the wheels, that jeep isn't being dragged or pushed unless the steering is unlocked or dollies are put under the wheels. Otherwise, it's going to immediately start to turn.

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I decided on hooking up to the push start button because I wanted the ability to warm up the Jeep in winter with a remote start. After I take my fob out of it's faraday pouch, start it, put it back in the pouch, no one is starting that vehicle anyway, but even if they skimmed the fob codes, they still aren't starting it without finding that kill switch button or working on some serious way to start it.

Now, they can always pop off the center console, get to the start/stop button to see if there's any abnormal wiring, but all they'd see on mine is the factory looking cloth wrapped wires. They'd have to otherwise take the time to remove that pain in the ass to remove cloth tape, AT the right point, then reconnect the start wires.

But again, this is all time and potential damage. Two things they're not the fans of.

It was mostly simple to do. That centre console panel is a bit of a pain to remove. The cloth tape is incredible irritating to remove without damaging wires. It just doesn't unwrap.

While others may decide that the starter solenoid or fuel pump is the way to go, I don't disagree. Especially if you don't care about remote starting in cold weather.

I'm also planning to put a dummy button on that will be hooked to my horn. If a potential thief hits that button thinking it's a kill switch, it'll honk. Again. Just another thing to irritate a potential theft to the point of moving on quickly.

Again, it's a fairly simply process. The issue is the access to the wires is limited without disassembling half of your front console. I think the real pain is deciding where to hide what kind of button you decide to get. And running the wires to it.

I know there are many other options. And pros who can access the wiring far more competently than I could. But this is as simple as it gets while still keeping some basic functions like remote starting.

I'm also thinking of putting a very simple power interupt switch to one of the ODB port wires.
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if you don't have the lockers/AUX switch panel you could install that and use one (or more) of the buttons for your secret kill switch. factory look and no one would think those are kill switches.
 
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if you don't have the lockers/AUX switch panel you could install that and use one (or more) of the buttons for your secret kill switch. factory look and no one would think those are kill switches.
I like that idea. Keeps it clean. Other options are the built in visor garage door buttons, and SOS / emerg buttons above the centre mirror. The issue with those though, are that they're momentary buttons, and they'd need to be replaced with a fully close/open circuit button behind them, and there's not much space.
 

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maestro5531 sells a start button kill switch wire harness that takes 5 minutes to install. $30. couldn’t be easier. give him a shout. you can still remote start, just can’t drive it. you have to buy a cheap button to hook up to it however the whole thing is cheap, easy and very affective. i highly recommend it
 
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maestro5531 sells a start button kill switch wire harness that takes 5 minutes to install. $30. couldn’t be easier. give him a shout. you can still remote start, just can’t drive it. you have to buy a cheap button to hook up to it however the whole thing is cheap, easy and very affective. i highly recommend it
I was having trouble finding exactly which one you're referring to that he sells... Was it the 41.22 module? That looks clean, but no way it's a 5 minute job.

That said, in the end, mine was pretty straight forward.

One hidden switch connected to the starter button wiring harness behind the dash. Done.

The time consuming part involved running the wire to where I wanted to hide it that was accessible to me, but not an obvious location for a thief looking for a quick score.

The other time consuming part was removing some of the cloth wire cover (that stuff is a pain in the ass) and then re-wrapping the wire to hide the obvious cut in the red wire.

It's so simple though. Red wire from the start button to the kill switch, back to the red wire into the harness. This is located far enough down into the harness that it would be a pain for someone to easily and quickly access and physically connect. And there's no way in hell they can follow the wire to the kill switch without taking apart the entire jeep consoles...

I still have remote start, but no one can fully start the jeep to move it until they close that red wire circuit.

I'm actually considering tapping into that circuit with a second kill switch, JUST in case they find the one.

But again, this is all about mitigating a theft. Making it inconvenient enough for them to move on. Short of dragging it onto a flatbed, or putting dollies under the wheels and towing it, I suspect it would be a vehicle they wouldn't spend time on.


Fun fact for anyone reading this: Faraday pouches are coated with a substance that prevents the RF from transmitting. And that substance wears off over time. I guess it's to make the pouches more comfortable to carry as opposed to a rigid metal based faraday cage.

I accidentally discovered that when I opened my doors and started the Jeep when I forgot to remove the FOB from my pouch. Then looked into why.
 

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You might want to do a test....
Remote start your jeep, get into the Jeep eith the fob, don't disable your kill switch and see if you can drive away. On a BMW you can, not sure on a Jeep. I have a hidden Tazer and usebthe PIN lock feature, so I don't even need to ise a faraday bag for my FOB, you can steel my jeep even if you have my key fob...
 
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Sound advice. I have indeed performed various tests to ensure it can't do anything until that FOB is present to fully start, and kill switch circuit is closed for the Start to fully engage (and allow the drive features to engage). I just get a notice on my dash that "FOB must be present to start" or "press brake to start" or something like that. I should note the actual message to share here.

But 100% agree that it's worth performing tests.
 

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You want to make sure it can't be driven away even if the fob is present in case they program a new fob in ...
 
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You want to make sure it can't be driven away even if the fob is present in case they program a new fob in ...
Even If they had my FOB, they couldn't drive off unless they found the kill switch.

I've gone through multiple scenarios.


If the Jeep is running, and they have the cloned frequency or even the FOB itself, hit the starter button (and brake), the engine shuts off. Do it a couple of times, and the alarm goes off.

IF the jeep is running, and they didn't have the FOB, or FOB RF, then it just says the FOB is needed on the display.

If the engine isn't running, and they had the FOB, or FOB RF, and try to start it, nothing happens at all.

And again, in all scenarios, they can't get the jeep out of park. Sure, they could use the manual dead battery parking release, but all that does is put the vehicle into neutral. Still can't drive it.

The only thing left is for them to find the kill switch, re-wire the ignition, or tow it. All pretty time consuming for a 5 year old Jeep.

Without finding the kill switch, their only options are to re-wire the ignition, or tow it.
 

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I was having trouble finding exactly which one you're referring to that he sells... Was it the 41.22 module? That looks clean, but no way it's a 5 minute job.
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This is the harness that I make, I've sold hundreds to TRX owners, install a kill switch onto the wire leads and vehicle will not start. If you remote start , you still have to press the ignition button to drive off, if the kill switch is active, you can press all day long and it will not drive off.
 

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This is the harness that I make, I've sold hundreds to TRX owners, install a kill switch onto the wire leads and vehicle will not start. If you remote start , you still have to press the ignition button to drive off, if the kill switch is active, you can press all day long and it will not drive off.
Nice. I like how clean that is with the plug and play harness. And THAT, is certainly faster than the one I referenced above.

This was the first link I came across when I searched by your user name (https://41twentytwo.com/install-kill-switch/)... I just assumed that was the one dayusmc was referring to, and that one is clearly not the minute job he was referring to.

Yours is certainly faster to install than the way I did it. Same result though.
 

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maestro5531’s harness couldn’t be cleaner or easier. if you have it planned in your head and know how to connect two wires, you can get this done in minutes. i was really surprised. i don’t get kick backs from sales, lol, just a happy customer. it’s too inexpensive not to try.
 
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maestro5531’s harness couldn’t be cleaner or easier. if you have it planned in your head and know how to connect two wires, you can get this done in minutes. i was really surprised. i don’t get kick backs from sales, lol, just a happy customer. it’s too inexpensive not to try.

Well, I think minutes is a little generous... You still have to hide the actual kill switch and run the wiring to it. That can be a chore in itself. Unless you're just dangling the switch under the plastic trim by the footwell... Then it's minutes LOL

But having the plugs already wired certainly makes things a lot quicker than my cutting into a wire, stripping it, connecting the two leads to the new switch wiring, and of course all the cloth taping to hide it, make it clean looking, and protect it.

Don't get me wrong, my way isn't hard by any stretch. It's just tedious. maestro5531's kit certainly does all that boring tedious work for the buyer. It looks quality made for sure. And easier to uninstall.

If I were in the US, and if the price is right, I'd probably had bought it for sure.

My way was about $30. It would be less if someone already has some of the supplies.
 

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This is the harness that I make, I've sold hundreds to TRX owners, install a kill switch onto the wire leads and vehicle will not start. If you remote start , you still have to press the ignition button to drive off, if the kill switch is active, you can press all day long and it will not drive off.

Do you still make these?
 

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Wait, how does the jeep remote start, but not be able to drive away?
I'm interested. I want a kill switch but be able to remote start.
I thought about my aux switches, either the factory ones or voswitch (for my lights).
Saw a video that uses fuel pump, but that won't allow remote start.
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