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Strange law 2: Virginian motorists must honk their horns if they are attempting to pass another vehicle.

Im betting no cop in your state enforces the above law. In fact, I know they dont becuase ive driven through and around Virginia many times and passed many cars on the street and highway and no cop has enforced it.


You think that this is bad -----> A society that allows its police force to selectively enforce laws is asking for trouble.
But you think this is ok ----> start recording the police..... but I'm willing to bet nothing ever happens
Your source is nothing.
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title46.2/chapter8/section46.2-838/

How are those statements in any way contradictory?
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So everyone saying that it is the law and must be enforced are saying that anyone who drives 1 mph over the speed limit should be pulled over and ticketed. Because that is the law after all. There are several laws that are not enforced. Victimless crimes should be rethought. How can anyone justify this law as needed for safety when there are several other things far more dangerous allowed there?
 

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So everyone saying that it is the law and must be enforced are saying that anyone who drives 1 mph over the speed limit should be pulled over and ticketed. Because that is the law after all. There are several laws that are not enforced. Victimless crimes should be rethought. How can anyone justify this law as needed for safety when there are several other things far more dangerous allowed there?
You're so close to understanding the point, maybe you should re-read the opposing point without the lens of intellectual dishonesty.


There are several laws that are not enforced.
-Correct

Victimless crimes should be rethought.
-Correct

How can anyone justify this law as needed for safety when there are several other things far more dangerous allowed there?
-Because the law is written without respect to other unrelated/non-conflicting regulations.

The point is, the police are NOT the legislature. Stop allowing the legislature to get away with failing to perform their most basic functions while blaming the underpaid police officers for enforcing the law as required.
 

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Some people are always looking for someone else to blame when they do something wrong.

I've been pulled over plenty of times in my life and gotten tickets. Speeding, tint on the windows, lift too tall, and and countless other things. Did I blame the officer that pulled me over, of course not.
 

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I was once pulled over for bird watching out the passenger window. My cousin was driving his run down old S-10 and I was photographing a red-tailed hawk out the window. We were in the neighborhood for about 15 minutes, and we were stopped because someone thought we were casing their house for robbery. I laughed.
 

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I was once pulled over for bird watching out the passenger window. My cousin was driving his run down old S-10 and I was photographing a red-tailed hawk out the window. We were in the neighborhood for about 15 minutes, and we were stopped because someone thought we were casing their house for robbery. I laughed.
Bird watching? I don't know if I would have made it that.

Sounds like a good reason to stop a vehicle. I can certainly see someone calling saying there's a car driving really slow taking pictures of my house.
 

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Your source is nothing.
https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title46.2/chapter8/section46.2-838/

How are those statements in any way contradictory?
I just realized your the guy that doesnt know how the weather works.

You saying its bad if cops use common sense and good judgement instead of being trigger happy or "enforcing laws" just to generate revenue. Yet youre not bothered by the fact the corruption wont be fixed. In other words if the law comes knocking down your door for no reason, youre just cool with it.

My source is nothing? Sure. Heres another one then. Cant curse in public: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter8/section18.2-388/

Are you happily going to let yourself be taken to jail when a cop arrests you for cursing? If you are, good for you, but the rest of us like our freedom.
 

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You're so close to understanding the point, maybe you should re-read the opposing point without the lens of intellectual dishonesty.


There are several laws that are not enforced.
-Correct

Victimless crimes should be rethought.
-Correct

How can anyone justify this law as needed for safety when there are several other things far more dangerous allowed there?
-Because the law is written without respect to other unrelated/non-conflicting regulations.

The point is, the police are NOT the legislature. Stop allowing the legislature to get away with failing to perform their most basic functions while blaming the underpaid police officers for enforcing the law as required.
I'm not saying that the answer is for the leos to not enforce it as a long term solution. Obviously changing the ridiculous law is the correct answer. But if other laws are overlooked due to their absurdity, which is not the solution for those either, then it is logical to think that this one would be overlooked as well.
 

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Bird watching? I don't know if I would have made it that.

Sounds like a good reason to stop a vehicle. I can certainly see someone calling saying there's a car driving really slow taking pictures of my house.
It was the largest red-tailed hawk I've ever seen. Very pretty bird, albeit incredibly common in the southwest.
 

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I just realized your the guy that doesnt know how the weather works.

You saying its bad if cops use common sense and good judgement instead of being trigger happy or "enforcing laws" just to generate revenue. Yet youre not bothered by the fact the corruption wont be fixed. In other words if the law comes knocking down your door for no reason, youre just cool with it.

My source is nothing? Sure. Heres another one then. Cant curse in public: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title18.2/chapter8/section18.2-388/

Are you happily going to let yourself be taken to jail when a cop arrests you for cursing? If you are, good for you, but the rest of us like our freedom.
No, I would take the case as far up the courts as possible. Freedom of speech should be absolute, those laws exist solely to get aggressively disruptive people out of public spaces. I wouldn't fight the damn cop for doing his job though.
 

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I'm not saying that the answer is for the leos to not enforce it as a long term solution. Obviously changing the ridiculous law is the correct answer. But if other laws are overlooked due to their absurdity, which is not the solution for those either, then it is logical to think that this one would be overlooked as well.
Bad laws will be ignored and never fixed unless they are enforced. The separation of powers exists for a reason.
 

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I'm not saying that the answer is for the leos to not enforce it as a long term solution. Obviously changing the ridiculous law is the correct answer. But if other laws are overlooked due to their absurdity, which is not the solution for those either, then it is logical to think that this one would be overlooked as well.
The answer to most people’s complaints in here is simple for the vast majority of cops out there, which are good and decent people. It’s the theory of the letter of the law versus spirit of the law. Read up on it. There are good people and bad people in every profession. With approximately 1,000,000 law enforcement officers in the United States, you’re going to have a lame duck every now and then.

In regards to the reddit link, most of those videos are actual videos with a false title and commentary. These days, internet critics of cops who know nothing of the line of work or law will be quick to prematurely judge an incident through their ill informed eyes and add a commentary to a video that completely contradicts what the video is displaying. I’ve seen it time and time again, even on news channels. Critics will make up their own story whether the video supports it or not.

Most critics called for every officer to be equipped with body cams. Well most of us have them and it shows us doing our job, being professional, and captures evidence that these critics and civil rights warriors don’t want us to have. So here’s the new demand, get rid of those body cams which are violating people’s rights. It’s a no win.
 

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Life is short , Think outside the box try different areas meet different people be exposed to different things. if you live in an area and you don’t like it for whatever reasons, no worry there’s some awesome awesome places in America Irregardless of what the news tells us. I went from a small town in Pennsylvania to the west coast and I’m not advocating for California but whatever does it for you. freedom , man freedom is awesome not being hassled is awesome, legal weed is awesome , driving with no doors is awesome , no rust, no snow is awesome. There is no perfect place , no utopia maybe heaven if you believe in that. I feel so sorry for people who never get out of there ZIP Code. Leave those small town cops small thinking behind.
 

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So everyone saying that it is the law and must be enforced are saying that anyone who drives 1 mph over the speed limit should be pulled over and ticketed. Because that is the law after all. There are several laws that are not enforced. Victimless crimes should be rethought. How can anyone justify this law as needed for safety when there are several other things far more dangerous allowed there?
Actually, my friend got a warning for 3 mph over on a ramp once:like:... I think the highway patrol dude was just suffering from low blood sugar:giggle:
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