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I have some new wheels picked out for the future but they're aluminum. I'm not so sure about them now.

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[Ratbert]

I have some new wheels picked out for the future but they're aluminum. I'm not so sure about them now.

One thing I learned from my sports car days is that there are three characteristics when buying wheels (which I called rims back then): light, cheap, and strong. Pick any two.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

In all likelihood, you damaged your rim earlier then where you lost a bead. Very common to bend a rim, slowly lose air to the point that you finally burp a tire. You think you were at X psi but in reality, at the moment you hit that last obstacle, you were likely at <10 psi.

As far as breaking parts, it is somewhat the game we play. You can mitigate a lot of that by wheeling with similar Jeeps with people that have similar goals as you. You can't eat your cake and have it too.

I have some groups that I go out with that have way better builds than me and when I choose to go with them, I have accepted that more damage than normal will likely occur and that it won't affect any other aspect of my life. At times, we get to obstacles that I need to reconsider and I will sit out that particular trail or obstacle.

I like wheeling with you but there are plenty of days that I am willing to go easy. I think you should do easier stuff but do it more frequently until you are at a point that a mechanical doesn't sideline you for so long.

 

[Ratbert]

I do agree.

Sadly I'm pretty sure my wife will leave me if I try and go wheeling more than once a month. I'm kind of lucky that my wife is even willing to put up with that much. If we didn't have our grandkids living with us full-time, I could probably get away with wheeling twice a month, but with the grandkids full-time, that puts a lot of stress on my wife.

Realistically this only sets me back one wheeling trip. I was going to go in November when @SadRobot comes to town, so that's really the only thing I'm going to miss.

Probably crazy, but I do want to try some real easy stuff with my HT tires. Assuming it's a dry winter.

But yeah that's what I was kind of thinking, The damage happened before and it just became noticeable when it did.

Hey man, I don't mind scuffing up my skid plates, that's why I bought them!

The easy trails are fun, and if I ever hit something I didn't want to do or wasn't capable of doing, I'd let you know. Like I have in the past. That being said, I like to be challenged. Easy trails are fun from time to time, but the real fun is in doing something that pushes you past your limits, it makes you a better man, it makes you a better jeeper!

Because of my tire and wheel situation, I now know how to change a spare on the trail, I learned a lifelong lesson about aluminum wheels, and I have a new direction to go when I purchase my next set of wheels (whenever that is).

What wheels are you running? It's surprising that you were able to damage them so significantly without realizing it.

 

[Ratbert]

Icon rebound pro (interlock technology)

It's some pretty thick aluminum too. At least on the rim area it's got to be like quarter inch thick. I'm not sure if that's the consistency throughout, but it's definitely beefy where it needs to be.

I was talking to my dad about it earlier this evening, and he was saying that he's even knocked out a few similar looking bent wheels. Though he said all of the wheels he did were steel.

Icon is supposed to be a really good brand. That's pretty fucked up.

 

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I don't know Treds, its not that it looks bad but you may find yourself getting stopped by the law checking for kids back there. It looks like a cage.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

What wheels are you running? It's surprising that you were able to damage them so significantly without realizing it.

Oh, I could hear the banging every 3 seconds and I was 50-100 yards ahead....

 

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I think I'm going to sell the remaining four wheels that I have. Use the money I make from them to go buy five steelies.

If anybody wants to buy them from me, let me know. Otherwise I'll probably put them up on Facebook marketplace.

No point on hanging on to wheels that won't be able to keep up with what I want to do with my Jeep. So better to get a steely that if I do damage it, I can at least have it fixed and keep running with it.

At $350 each for a wheel when I first purchased them, doesn't make sense to keep running them until they all break, why not just get some money for them now. I think I could probably get $1,000 for all four if I play the cards right, but realistically I can definitely get $800 for all of them no questions asked.

I would, some cash toward new wheels is better than nothing. Drop back and punt so to speak.

I'm already curious which steelies are you looking at getting? Come on bro, drop a spoiler on us will ya?

 

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I screenshot'd this earlier.

If I'm going to be breaking wheels occasionally, basic and inexpensive is my preferred method!

Like @Ratbert said... LIGHT, CHEAP, STRONG (pick any two)

Idk what the weight difference is and that doesn't matter to me but strong for less $$$, winner, winner!

 

[autotragic]

Yep.

My wife's pretty cool about these sorts of things. As long as it doesn't cost money she's usually pretty chill about it. That's part of the reason why I'm going to be done wheeling until March of next year. It's not that I don't want to go wheeling, it's that I don't want to break more things. Four outings, two things broken, looks like the odds are pretty bad.

Like I told my wife, we're not losing any money, but really it's a $350 lesson to learn.

It is funny though because I was kicking around the idea when I was driving out there yesterday of running two spares, that way if I damage one I can keep wheeling. I feel it's a safe choice to only off-road as long as you have an available spare. So if you got two spares, you can go even longer if you break something.

This makes me feel better about my $325 wheels that I got for 50% off. They aren't "special" in anyway but the price sure was right. My next wheels are going to be method beadgrips. They are badass and don't cost a fortune either. 80% of the performance of "real", expensive beadlocks for like 50% of the cost.

 

[Ratbert]

So I decided I'm going to keep my Icon Rebound Pro interlock wheels.

Couple reasons:

I was definitely shooting well above what my Jeep is capable of, I was relying heavily on my skid plates to carry me through and expertise of those around me. Was I able to make it? Yeah, for the most part. But by keeping the Icon Rebound Pros, I will be much more aware of where I'm taking my wheels and my Jeep, I will be more aware of the faults of my aluminum wheels, I will be less likely to shoot above what my Jeep is capable of, and when I do want to replace that one interlock wheel I'm missing, it'll only cost me $327 instead of $1,700 for five new ones, or potentially more if I buy a different brand of steel beadlock wheels.

I've been getting carried away enjoying all the crazy shit my Jeep is capable of doing, meanwhile this will set me back to where I need to be. Focusing on improving my technique and getting better at off-roading and moving up to harder trails as my Jeep improves and is capable of doing those harder trails.

A lot of it does come down to the cost, when I bought these wheels it was $1,400 for all five, they have gone up a fair amount in price. I believe when I bought mine, I got them for $267 each (or something like that), and now the same wheels a year and a half later are going for $327 each, and that doesn't include tax.

I think this is the right direction to go, as much as I like and enjoy going off the deep end, staying grounded is important to having a successful life. Growth is earned, not given!

On your next iteration (if there is one) you might consider going with cheaper non-beadlocks. Beadlocks are typically for those that air down significantly. After what happened I can't imagine that you'll be airing down to beadlocks levels (10-ish or lower).

 

[autotragic]

Interesting!!

I've actually heard really good things from a bunch of different people about those bead grip style wheels. Heard the grip so well and function almost as well as true beadlocks, but like you said with all all that extra hardware and cost. I do plan on getting a second spare on the Jeep sometime next year as well, so I'll definitely be looking into those wheels. Would be good to start getting some backups in place for when and if I bust another aluminum wheel.

And 100% DOT legal everywhere with none of the leaking issues of true beadlocks. To me they are probably the best compromise you can get currently. And the price is actually less than the MSRP of the wheels I have now...If it hadn't been for the sale on these I would have just got them to start with but I also didn't know if I'd like bronze on sting-gray so this let me see if I liked it for a decent price. Turns out I love the bronze on sting-gray so will be doing it again next go-round. The 701s are pretty close to what I have now so leaning that way.

 

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I know, I'm ashamed as well. I just keep telling myself, it's only for 5 months, and then I'll be rocking 37s like a badass!!

 

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I know, I'm ashamed as well. I just keep telling myself, it's only for 5 months, and then I'll be rocking 37s like a badass!!

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