Nuclear Power Plant

[Mike_Hawk]

If only - I’ve been hearing it’s about 7 years away since the late 70’s or early 80’s the latest does look promising though so maybe someday the 7 years will be accurate.

Funny enough, they're saying it'll be 10 years till they fire it up

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[2nd 392]

Funny enough, they're saying it'll be 10 years till they fire it up

What, 10 years ! - it was 7 years 40 years ago,
it’s been 7 years on most reports ever since, including one less than a year ago….. Now 10 ! Jeeeeze ,

 

[CLC3rdRubicon2024]

Vogtle unit 3 went critical and connected to the grid last year. Vogtle unit 4 went critical and connected to the grid earlier this year. Both in Ga. Palisades nuclear plant has requested a license for operations from the NRC after it shut down and scheduled for decommissioning. They plan restart for next year. This in Michigan. All nuclear companies are scoping out SMRs. I say “GO GREEN, GO NUCLEAR”

 

[JSFoster75]

We have a local company hidden in the Appalachian Mountains that manufactures Nuclear Fuel for the entire US Navy Fleet... To my knowledge, they have never had any accidents, but anyone that works near the manufacturing process has to wear a Geiger Counter to make sure they aren't exposed to too much radiation.

We also have a Nuclear Power Plant being built in a neighboring state. From what I've heard, it takes approximately 15 years from ground-breaking to coming online.

The problems that I see with wind & solar is that 1. Windmills are killing a lot of birds and 2. Solar takes up a huge amount of ground space that could otherwise be used for farming, etc. It would take an enormous amount of land to produce the same amount of energy that is produced by 1 nuclear or coal power plant.

 

[Plumbean]

Vogtle unit 3 went critical and connected to the grid last year. Vogtle unit 4 went critical and connected to the grid earlier this year. Both in Ga. Palisades nuclear plant has requested a license for operations from the NRC after it shut down and scheduled for decommissioning. They plan restart for next year. This in Michigan. All nuclear companies are scoping out SMRs. I say “GO GREEN, GO NUCLEAR”

Vogtle is not exactly a great poster child for new nuclear. Massively over budget and way behind schedule. 25 years ago we were going to have a nuclear renaissance in the US, with something like 35 new plants in the permitting process. Vogtle is the only project that got built and it (along with the SCANA project that was never completed) bankrupted Westinghouse in the process.

Palisades is a somewhat unique situation and likely won’t be replicated, even if they succeed in restarting it. I was involved in its sale back in the early 2000s.

 

[AndySpill]

We have a local company hidden in the Appalachian Mountains that manufactures Nuclear Fuel for the entire US Navy Fleet... To my knowledge, they have never had any accidents, but anyone that works near the manufacturing process has to wear a Geiger Counter to make sure they aren't exposed to too much radiation.

We also have a Nuclear Power Plant being built in a neighboring state. From what I've heard, it takes approximately 15 years from ground-breaking to coming online.

The problems that I see with wind & solar is that 1. Windmills are killing a lot of birds and 2. Solar takes up a huge amount of ground space that could otherwise be used for farming, etc. It would take an enormous amount of land to produce the same amount of energy that is produced by 1 nuclear or coal power plant.

Funny you mention Navy Nuclear Fuel Scott.

The idea of only having to refuel a warship's power plant only every 25 years is appealing. Still more, running a submarine with a nuclear plant that's not much larger in size and shape than a blown up Tylenol capsule, requiring no light and no oxygen--thereby limiting patrol length only by food supply, changed forever subsurface warfare, and the nuclear armaments they carry to locations only known by on ship personnel, capable of surviving and responding to a first strike.

Of course the issue of what to do with that spent fuel, Navy or civilian, so that life forms 10, to 30,000 years from now (assuming even around) stay away from such deposits has scientists in debate regarding the most universally recognized pictorials e.g.

 

[Tokenwasp]

I would humbly suggest that the term "fossil fuel" in itself is propaganda - the idea being that we get our fuel from fossils.

So is " forestall the climate crisis".

As I said here, we haven't built a new nuclear plant in the US in three decades, and while 39 reactors have been permanently shut down, with licenses for another 22 reactors due to expire before 2030, only eight new reactors have come online since 1990 - and 6 of those were delayed projects from the 1970s (the other two came online in the last nine months in Georgia).

Since that post, I have come to the conclusion that the answer will lie in micro reactors. The biggest problem will be ending the power companies' regional monopolies on power generation/distribution. The industry by and large knows now that "renewables" are not the ultimate solution - especially after the hail storm in Texas earlier this year.

 

[Flip]

Discussions are educational. All valid points, all valid concerns.

I appreciate everyone's input and comments. I have always found energy to be very interesting.

 

[Plumbean]

So is " forestall the climate crisis".

As I said here, we haven't built a new nuclear plant in the US in three decades, and while 39 reactors have been permanently shut down, with licenses for another 22 reactors due to expire before 2030, only eight new reactors have come online since 1990 - and 6 of those were delayed projects from the 1970s (the other two came online in the last nine months in Georgia).

Since that post, I have come to the conclusion that the answer will lie in micro reactors. The biggest problem will be ending the power companies' regional monopolies on power generation/distribution. The industry by and large knows now that "renewables" are not the ultimate solution - especially after the hail storm in Texas earlier this year.

SMRs could very well be part of the solution, but we are still a long ways away from any sort of serious deployment of them. I would also note that in much of the US the utilities no longer have a monopoly on power generation. They certainly don't in Texas, which proudly created an electricity market that does not include a capacity market, and is now suffering a bit from its zealous reverence for the the free market. If they had instead mandated a bit more on the resiliency and reliability front, Winter Storm Uri would have not been such a catastrophe. Oh, and while I agree that renewables are not the ultimate solution on their own, they are certainly part of the answer, and they were also not the main problem in TX. Yes, there were some wind farms that had issues due to the cold, but the fossil plants that shut down due to frozen coal piles and the lack of firm gas transportation were the real problem.

 

[Brad Hearing]

To me nuclear power plants is like owning a pitbull. they are totally fine and a great Idea until something goes wrong and then a child dies - for the simpler among us that means a meltdown that wrecks a place like so much Chernobyl. proponents saying its safer now are just playing the lottery like they were decades ago.

coal and oil doesn't have this problem. it gets cleaned up. oil spills after a while are habitable because its based on one of the core components of life for the earth itself - carbon.

 

[2nd 392]

We have a local company hidden in the Appalachian Mountains that manufactures Nuclear Fuel for the entire US Navy Fleet... To my knowledge, they have never had any accidents, but anyone that works near the manufacturing process has to wear a Geiger Counter to make sure they aren't exposed to too much radiation.

We also have a Nuclear Power Plant being built in a neighboring state. From what I've heard, it takes approximately 15 years from ground-breaking to coming online.

The problems that I see with wind & solar is that 1. Windmills are killing a lot of birds and 2. Solar takes up a huge amount of ground space that could otherwise be used for farming, etc. It would take an enormous amount of land to produce the same amount of energy that is produced by 1 nuclear or coal power plant.

abc birds. org - studies summary- Averaging the two would suggest that 1.17 M birds are killed by wind turbines in the U.S. each year

selectively un reported happening at different times and places. An oil spill gets them at the same time and place. All news outlets have crews with remote vans on the scene reporting the “tragedy”, special reports, headline news showing the oil covered birds…..
Also, how much “habitat” has been covered by solar farms Would the “green environmentalists” please explain the hypocrisy.
nuclear- not in my back yard, as evidenced by the problematic Rancho Seco. The other Ca nuke plants were built on the coast in possible earthquake zones, yes, people are fearful….. since Fukushima, good luck with public acceptance.

 

[sherpaJL]

 

[Brad Hearing]

Ive always hated this. we are the apex predator. we own this place. pretending that what we breathe is somehow poison even though we pump it into greenhouses to grow plants all day is just insane.

 

[sherpaJL]

Ive always hated this. we are the apex predator. we own this place. pretending that what we breathe is somehow poison even though we pump it into greenhouses to grow plants all day is just insane.

We are the apex predator. Tell that to a grizzly or great white
We own this place. We should be stewards of the environment, it's the only planet we have
I agree, the greenies promote environmental guardianship to perpetuate their own self worth. They always seem to be the worst offenders.

 

[2nd 392]

Ive always hated this. we are the apex predator. we own this place. pretending that what we breathe is somehow poison even though we pump it into greenhouses to grow plants all day is just insane.

Grammar school ?

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