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i love the look of the M/Ts (like in your avatar), but i'm going to guess those are the A/Ts, yeah?


This stretch is generally a loud stretch of road.

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When I searched for LR C 37s, I don't find much. Some off brand mud tires and the BFG K02. Anyone?
 

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Good to know. Still researching
 

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yeah, but 81 lbs each, not not DOT certified.
And a competition compound and not an A/T.

But it would be fun to drive them on an extreme trail like the Rubicon. An experienced off-road racer told me MTs with race compound transform a jeep.
 

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anyone know what a typical return policy is on tires? i have a new set with less than 1000 miles (nitto and want to go with Mt) or if i have to ill sell them take the hit and buy beer to cry into😂
 

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yup.
@jadmt was responding to your target of "LR C 37s", which those X's are.

also, what they make a J**p drive like on the rocks may or may not be what we want on the highway.

so what you're looking for is a street-legal A/T 37 in a Load Range C?
i'll be watching to see what anyone comes up with, but after having use the Mickeys in a Load Range D, i don't see any reason to get fixated on a Load Range C; i thought the Ds rode just fine.

thought about this a lot while i was spinning my KM3s in the rain here last week creeping away from stops. much as i really love the look of the Muds, i think my next set of shoes needs to be those Mickey A/Ts like you've got.


And a competition compound and not an A/T.

But it would be fun to drive them on an extreme trail like the Rubicon. An experienced off-road racer told me MTs with race compound transform a jeep.
 

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And a competition compound and not an A/T.

But it would be fun to drive them on an extreme trail like the Rubicon. An experienced off-road racer told me MTs with race compound transform a jeep.
x10.. same when you talk to anyone who runs Interco SS IROKs and they say the same thing. all it takes is money :)..one day...my buddy just bought these...cheater.....lol
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Jeep Wrangler JL Load range C vs D vs E IMG_0767
 

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If your willing to try some cheap tires Delium Terra Raider AT have been amazing for 3 seasons. They are soft, wear fast and are rock rash out at this point. Traction hasn't been an issue at 12-14psi and the ride is pretty nice after they broke in. They flat out work in snow, wet rock and granite.

I got 20k out of them, I wheel mostly Sierra Granite. They are starting to split/deep crack in the water channels and need to be replaced here shortly.

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anyone know what a typical return policy is on tires? i have a new set with less than 1000 miles (nitto and want to go with Mt) or if i have to ill sell them take the hit and buy beer to cry into😂
Toyo has a 500 mile 45 day satisfaction guarantee no question asked policy but even tho Toyo makes nitto, nitto does not have that so you csn either sell them or some tire shops take trades on good tires.
 

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I found the specs for the soon to be released BFG KO3 37x12.50R17 Load Range C.

According to the site they weigh just under 67 lbs, or just 3 lbs heavier than the KO2 of the same size and load range C. And 7 lbs lighter than the load range F KO3.

Jeep Wrangler JL Load range C vs D vs E KO3 37 1250 R 17 C Spec


They are also approved to be mounted on 8" wide rims, which is what the Rubicon X35 wheels are. So, tire shops can't give you a hard time mounting them.
 
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I found the specs for the soon to be released BFG KO3 37x12.50R17 Load Range C.

According to the site they weigh just under 67 lbs, or just 3 lbs heavier than the KO2 of the same size and load range C. And 7 lbs lighter than the load range F KO3.

KO3 37 1250 R 17 C Spec.webp


They are also approved to be mounted on 8" wide rims, which is what the Rubicon X35 wheels are. So, tire shops can't give you a hard time mounting them.
Hey that’s pretty awesome!
 

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Warning, anecdotal “evidence”. 5 Jeeps do a trail in SoCal with sharp rocks and roots on embankments with narrow sections and forced lines making them unavoidable. The two of us with OEM KO2s are at Americas Tire the following day with cut sidewalls. The other KO2 owner has decades of off-road experience. The other 3 with Mickey Thompson Baja Boss MTs had nothing more than scrapes on their sidewall. Not conclusive, but enough for me to not recommend KO2s on similar trails.
I take your experience and raise it by the fact that I wheeled both desert and Big Bear, plus 2 trips to Moab on KO2 Cs in 315 size. I never even had anything more than scrapes on my sidewalls. You are correct though, tire placement is key.

That said, I just took possession of 37x12.50 17s in KO2 Cs and I hate them. Way too soft. You feel it in ride, braking and especially turning. I drive entirely to much like a maniac to have squishy tires. So I exercised my America's Tire 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee and I have 37x12.50 17 KO2 Ds going on Wednesday.

I loved the C rated 315 KO2s, but I believe that the 37s have too much sidewall for the Cs to be anything but squishy. I was concerned about weight. My new wheels weigh 24 lbs, my XR wheels weighed around 38-40 lbs. The original 315s weighed 62 lbs, the 37s in C weighed in at 64 lbs and I'm sacrificing an additional 5 lbs for my KO2 Ds at 69 lbs. But I should gain handling and stability.
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