I-6 Hurricane Possible Pricing

[alksion]

I held off on replacing my totaled Jeep for a bit to give my wife some peace of mind. Replaced it with an M8 Competition, which now she has new concerns. Go figure

I probably won’t get a new Jeep until they release the I-6, which could very well be another 2 years. I am hoping it’s not a hybrid, but I’m not holding my breath.

From the recent rubicon anniversary editions, what do you all think pricing will start? I know it’s completely speculative, just trying to gauge where I might start before upgrades.

Cheers!

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[Heimkehr]

I probably won’t get a new Jeep until they release the I-6

From the recent rubicon anniversary editions, what do you all think pricing will start? I know it’s completely speculative, just trying to gauge where I might start before upgrades.

Insomuch that the 392 is functionally a $35K option for the Rube, I'd wager that the new I6, in standard output configuration, will add ~$25K to the sticker price of any Wrangler so equipped. I'd also suggest that the new engine might be limited to certain trims (if even more than just one), and will of course be available for the four door only.

I'll let others speculate on whether we'll have access to the high output version of the I6.

 

[Antonio]

I held off on replacing my totaled Jeep for a bit to give my wife some peace of mind. Replaced it with an M8 Competition, which now she has new concerns. Go figure

I probably won’t get a new Jeep until they release the I-6, which could very well be another 2 years. I am hoping it’s not a hybrid, but I’m not holding my breath.

From the recent rubicon anniversary editions, what do you all think pricing will start? I know it’s completely speculative, just trying to gauge where I might start before upgrades.

Cheers!

There has been really no sign pointing that the new hurricane I-6 will be implemented into the wrangler what we have is pure speculations, I would say that IF and that’s a big IF, but we were to ever see that happen it will be strictly available in a model similar to the 392 and be configured in away to be able to handle that kind of power for the capabilities of the wrangler means you’d have lots of tweaks already standards in that model so expect the price to exceed that of the 392 as we’re talking about possibly years down the road and with this inflation increase on everything it could easily hit the $ 100K mark no doubt! If you’ve shopped BMW you can see how that scenario has played out over the past few years, all manufacturers are on the same bandwagon essentially I see jeep going forward with the 2.0 and 4xe as their main two platforms the 3.6 might linger around a bit longer but we’ll probably see more electric options in the lineup with future releases, just my two cents.

 

[ROK HEMI]

Let me know when your ready to dump the M8...

 

[JeepinJason33]

I held off on replacing my totaled Jeep for a bit to give my wife some peace of mind. Replaced it with an M8 Competition, which now she has new concerns. Go figure

I probably won’t get a new Jeep until they release the I-6, which could very well be another 2 years. I am hoping it’s not a hybrid, but I’m not holding my breath.

From the recent rubicon anniversary editions, what do you all think pricing will start? I know it’s completely speculative, just trying to gauge where I might start before upgrades.

Cheers!

Did you get the M8 two door or the M8 Gran Coupe? I sold my 2021 M5 and have been eyeing the M8 Gran Coupe for a while but they are hard to find.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Agreed that the I6 Hurricane being pit in a Wrangler is pure speculation at this point. Absolutely nothing from Jeep, not even leaked sources about it.

If you want a Wrangler, go ahead and buy what’s available right now. I’m afraid Stellantis doesn’t really like the Wrangler, but it’s continued success is something that can’t be overlooked. Under Fiat the JK was immediately improved, the JL was designed, the 4Xe and the 392 were designed, and perhaps the XR package as well. Stellantis has given us the High Tide, an upcoming ho hum 20A, an up charge for every color except white, and shockingly higher MSRPs.

I expect Wrangler to remain mostly unchanged for as long as the JL platform can be used before major changes are required by EPA or NHTSA regulation changes. In my opinion the 3.6 will live on for as long as it remains compliant with emissions and fuel economy. When the time comes I expect it to be dropped and the turbo 4 to be the sole engine, perhaps with an updated design and a bump in displacement. Stuffing an inline 6 in the JL engine bay, along with 2 turbos, and all of the required cooling seems unlikely.

Maybe a naturally aspirated or single turbo version could be done though. An NA with something like 300 HP/350 ft lbs would be more than enough. A single turbo could easily put those numbers up to 350 HP/380 ft lbs.

All just pure speculation, based on nothing talk. Until you see one being tested or see one at EJS or some other major event, and it was built by Jeep, I wouldn’t count on it or even develop hope.

 

[AFD]

Insomuch that the 392 is functionally a $35K option for the Rube, I'd wager that the new I6, in standard output configuration, will add ~$25K to the sticker price of any Wrangler so equipped. I'd also suggest that the new engine might be limited to certain trims (if even more than just one), and will of course be available for the four door only.

I'll let others speculate on whether we'll have access to the high output version of the I6.

Considering the 392 currently has 470/470 (HP/TQ), I really don't see the S.O. i6 replacing it with 400/450, when the H.O. version is a much closer match at 500/475. A slight increase in power would be a normal improvement, but a downgrade seems unusual.

Just guessing, but I'd say the H.O. would replace the 392 as its own halo trim at a price a fair bit cheaper than the 392, and the S.O. would be an option on Rubicons and other upper trims for a more reasonable price. A $20k+ premium over the standard 2.0T seems reasonable for the H.O. version, but excessive for the S.O. imo.

And OP, just keep it sunny side up!

 

[2nd 392]

Considering the 392 currently has 470/470 (HP/TQ), I really don't see the S.O. i6 replacing it with 400/450, when the H.O. version is a much closer match at 500/475. A slight increase in power would be a normal improvement, but a downgrade seems unusual.

Just guessing, but I'd say the H.O. would replace the 392 as its own halo trim at a price a fair bit cheaper than the 392, and the S.O. would be an option on Rubicons and other upper trims for a more reasonable price. A $20k+ premium over the standard 2.0T seems reasonable for the H.O. version, but excessive for the S.O. imo.

And OP, just keep it sunny side up!

Pricing— FWIW— the HO is a $2K option over the 392 for the GW, don’t expect cheaper IF a 392 replacement.

 

[alksion]

Did you get the M8 two door or the M8 Gran Coupe? I sold my 2021 M5 and have been eyeing the M8 Gran Coupe for a while but they are hard to find.

Regular coupe. Preferred the look and no kids yet but love both carbon ceramic breaks too!

 

[alksion]

Yeah makes sense. Maybe we’ll see a higher HP 4 banger. Some of the stuff Mercedes doing with a C 63 is pretty crazy. I would say by next summer if there’s nothing new, I will probably go with the four-cylinder and just build it out the way I want it.

I love this M8 Comp, but I am itching for Jeep as well. Once you get one it’s hard to never have one again.

 

[AFD]

Pricing— FWIW— the HO is a $2K option over the 392 for the GW, don’t expect cheaper IF a 392 replacement.

This is true, but I just assumed that was because it was new, not because it cost them more to produce. If anything I'd be willing to bet it costs them a far lot less than the 392 to produce and assemble. Whether or not we ever get to see those savings remains to be seen.

 

[Heimkehr]

If anything I'd be willing to bet it costs them a far lot less than the 392 to produce and assemble. Whether or not we ever get to see those savings remains to be seen.

I'd wager the extra plumbing, sensors and wiring on the new twin-turbo six adds extra labor and thus additional expense to the assembly process and thus the sticker price.

The 392 is just a big ol' normally aspirated V8, one that Chrysler has built for decades, with tooling that is likely long since paid for.

 

[AFD]

That matte grey is absolutely stunning!

(And tbf, your wifey looks pretty good too )

I'd wager the extra plumbing, sensors and wiring on the new twin-turbo six adds extra labor and thus additional expense to the assembly process and thus the sticker price.

The 392 is just a big ol' normally aspirated V8, with tooling that is likely long since paid for.

This is also true, but I'm just highly skeptical that any auto maker outside of the hypercar segment would make a replacement engine that wasn't both comparable in performance and significantly cheaper to produce in some way. Jeep/Stellantis loves pinching pennies like that and I'd be surprised if they did anything other than something aimed at lowering their costs and/or increasing their profits.

Fuel economy aside, I think there's a reason why most of us would still prefer the large v8 over a blown i6 given similar performance numbers. Big chunk of iron vs some extra plumbing.

 

[Heimkehr]

...I'm just highly skeptical that any auto maker outside of the hypercar segment would make a replacement engine that wasn't both comparable in performance and significantly cheaper to produce in some way. Jeep/Stellantis loves pinching pennies like that and I'd be surprised if they did anything other than something aimed at lowering their costs and/or increasing their profits.

Stellantis likely also has to manage current and anticipated CAFE requirements, with respect to the I6's efficiency when compared to the 392. The latter is simple and thirsty, whereas the technological complexity of the former can likely be manipulated in a manner that provides beneficial outcomes where gov't. regulation is concerned.

 

[alksion]

That matte grey is absolutely stunning!

(And tbf, your wifey looks pretty good too )



This is also true, but I'm just highly skeptical that any auto maker outside of the hypercar segment would make a replacement engine that wasn't both comparable in performance and significantly cheaper to produce in some way. Jeep/Stellantis loves pinching pennies like that and I'd be surprised if they did anything other than something aimed at lowering their costs and/or increasing their profits.

Fuel economy aside, I think there's a reason why most of us would still prefer the large v8 over a blown i6 given similar performance numbers. Big chunk of iron vs some extra plumbing.

Yes sir. It’s frosted gray metallic. When people do the frosted PPF it just doesn’t look the same as the factory paint. I’m seriously in love with a color too. Slightly more upkeep, but really as long as you buy the proper soap (nothing with polish or wax in it) it’s not too bad.

Really I just love cars. Jeeps Mercedes BMWs. All amazing in my book. Special and fun in different ways.

And thanks. Of course, I am biased, but I tell her everyday.. for 32 years old, she still has it!

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