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This is my take on it. My wife currently works in a prison. They tested all of the prisoners. When tested, 1392 of the 1492 came back positive. Over 100 of the staff has tested positive including my wife. Convicts are typically very unhealth. there has been 3 prisoners that have died of Covid. Those prisoners were all old. None of the employees have died.

Are you following me here all but 100 of the 1492 tested negative. In prison, you can not seperate or social distance. They tried to isolate prisoners at first, but then the prisoners would not tell anyone that they were getting sick because they did not want to be isolated and lose their phone and email privilege.

Just saying that it just has not been the big killing machine that they expected in the prisoner system. They are just going to start testing staff weekly for Covid. The funny thing is that when an employee test positive, they are allowed to return to work after 5 days as long as they don't have a fever. If the staff had to stay home for 14 days, they would not be able to staff the prison.

Note this is just for the prison that my wife works at. There are several other prisons in Michigan that are also overrun with Covid.
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Source? Nevermind, you don’t want to actually research. It is easier to just listen to the talking heads on your news source of choice or just stick to anecdotal information that backs up what you already “know”.

Recovered means infected and recovered, not world population and recovered. Actual world fatality rate is 3.5%.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_pandemic_data

if you don’t like that source, find your own and post it.
C’mon, leave him alone. He asked all the experts on Facebook and they agree his numbers are accurate.

Anyway, eff old people, amiright? /s
 

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What they are omitting is the majority of them are over 65 with underlying medical issues.
Does that mean you have no sympathy for them? That anyone over 65 is a lost cause? What about all the wonderful regulars here who are over 65? Lots of people over 40 have 'underlying medical issues'.

Anyway, I stopped going into public buildings. That doesn't mean I stopped living. lmao. Everything that needed a trip to the store now gets delivered. Most outdoor activities are still relatively safe, if they don't involve crowding up in an enclosed space or something. Either way, I'm chilling. I work from home (recommended by my employer for anyone who doesn't have to be there) - that means the people who absolutely must be in the office are safer with fewer people in the office.

This thread is as usual, cranky snowflakes whining about not being able to watch their favorite sport on TV. There's still tons of things you can do, and for some of them it's safer if you wear a cheap piece of cloth on your face.
 

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Does that mean you have no sympathy for them? That anyone over 65 is a lost cause? What about all the wonderful regulars here who are over 65? Lots of people over 40 have 'underlying medical issues'.
Of course I have sympathy for them. I do not have sympathy for the Governors that are using the situation for tyranny. If you're vulnerable, by all means live in a bubble and wear a space suit if you're afraid. But let the healthy people live their lives. 0.2% have tested positive, 96% of them have recovered. When you know the data, the whole scam is exposed.
 

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Of course I have sympathy for them. I do not have sympathy for the Governors that are using the situation for tyranny.
What tyranny? Last I checked my state's governor has been bending over backwards for all sorts of small businesses and stuff. Ya know what I call tyranny? Forcing people who work at home to work in the office, forcing people to send their kids to in-person classes, forcing colleges to go in-person at the risk of losing their funding. Forcing states to do things.

That's tyranny to me.
 

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I agree with you. However the kids and college students can safely go to class. Small businesses should be open. Companies like Amazon and Walmart are making record profits while everyone else suffers. Experts say 10 out 11 have no symptoms.
 

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I agree with you. However the kids and college students can safely go to class. Small businesses should be open.
I suppose this is anecdotal, but practically all of the small businesses in my area are open.
 

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Of course I have sympathy for them. I do not have sympathy for the Governors that are using the situation for tyranny. If you're vulnerable, by all means live in a bubble and wear a space suit if you're afraid. But let the healthy people live their lives. 0.2% have tested positive, 96% of them have recovered. When you know the data, the whole scam is exposed.
The way you slow the spread of a virus you don’t yet fully understand is to limit EVERYONE’S exposure to each other. That isn’t tyranny. That is an attempt at pragmatic problem solving using the best developing science available.

I have been to 20 countries in my previous line of work and have witnessed tyranny. This ain’t it. This is an inconvenience.
 

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I suppose this is anecdotal, but practically all of the small businesses in my area are open.
Each area is different based on current case count. Our county has went back and forth a few times as our case count ebbs and flows. If we could accept masks as a culture, more businesses could open because the case count would slow.

Countries that have mandated masks, or culturally realize masks aren’t tyranny, have lower infection rates. Scientists and doctors have limited infection for over 150 years doing the same.
 

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well I am living. Been wheeling all over the country still have another trip planned in a few weeks. Covid is real, but so are car accidents, house fires, and crime. Balance and accept the risk that you are willing to take.
 

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Sure is funny how this virus goes in your body only through your mouth and nose...yet other similar virus’ can enter through the mouth, nose and eyes .... :facepalm:
But yet they’re ramming mask wearing down your throat. What about proper eye covering? Oh wait....why would they do that properly when they don’t even do mask wearing properly. So to me completely useless to do one and not the other ... if you’re really concerned and think wearing a mask actually helps.
 

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Sure is funny how this virus goes in your body only through your mouth and nose...yet other similar virus’ can enter through the mouth, nose and eyes .... :facepalm:
But yet they’re ramming mask wearing down your throat. What about proper eye covering? Oh wait....why would they do that properly when they don’t even do mask wearing properly. So to me completely useless to do one and not the other ... if you’re really concerned and think wearing a mask actually helps.
Covering three of the five holes on your face reduces the possibility of infection by 3/5s.

Also, you wearing is mask is much more about you not spreading an infection to others. It is pretty hard to spread an infection with your eyes.
 
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I think I am going to only drive my JL from 3:00 A:M to 4:30A:M. That way it reduces my chance of getting in a fatal accident.

Sorry. Could not help myself.

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Covering three of the five holes on your face reduces the possibility of infection by 3/5s.

Also, you wearing is mask is much more about you not spreading an infection to others. It is pretty hard to spread an infection with your eyes.
So what about all the healthy people that aren't infected? Why are they wearing masks?
The WHO did extensive contact tracing in other countries...those without symptoms are not spreading the illness. Also, 96% recovery in the USA, among the 0.2% testing positive.
Something to think about as they are start restricting our freedoms in the name of the invisible boogeyman. Deaths are near zero at this point, btw.
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How do you tell who is healthy? By your logic, doctors should never masks while performing surgery if they aren’t sympathetic, right?
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