rickinAZ
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Safer in what way? I don't take my Jeep off-road, as I discuss in post #6 of this thread.Femco is a much safer solution.
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Safer in what way? I don't take my Jeep off-road, as I discuss in post #6 of this thread.Femco is a much safer solution.
If you can change your oil without spilling a drop, you're right. But...I've made some fairly good messes in the past. I could change my oil with the Fumoto over my living room rug without worrying. If you ever try one, you will be hooked for life. [your comment would indicate to me that you've likely never seen one in action.]I just don't see the appeal. How long does it take to pull a drain plug, like 8 seconds?
If you can change your oil without spilling a drop, you're right. But...I've made some fairly good messes in the past. I could change my oil with the Fumoto over my living room rug without worrying. If you ever try one, you will be hooked for life. [your comment would indicate to me that you've likely never seen one in action.]
I was confused by your it-really-doesn't-save-time critique. The vulnerability concern is much more on point. In terms of speed and lack of spillage, the Fumoto makes the standard drain plug look like a 125 year old design - which it is.Eh, I just don't want something that adds risk or complexity to what was otherwise simple and foolproof. Especially on a vehicle that travels over large boulders and other extreme terrain often - mine does, at least. I've got a skid down there but still, a fumoto seems like it'd be flush or awfully close to flush with the skid's access hole.
Different strokes - I can see this being convenient but not in my use case on a Jeep that gets wheeled.
What are the differences?Femco is a much safer solution.
A Fumoto you flick to open it. They do have a plastic safety clip to prevent that but over time they fall off. I've seen people use tie-wraps to keep them closed as well. But that is the issue - the fact that Fumoto makes such a safety should be the clue that failures do occur.Safer in what way? I don't take my Jeep off-road, as I discuss in post #6 of this thread.
I use a Fumoto F316L on our 2018 JLU. The Heep has a Mountain OffRoad Enterprises oil pan/transmission skid plate. Without the Fumoto (or some other such device) when you pull the standard drain plug the oil stream initially overshoots the access hole in the plate, hits the v-shaped baffle, swirls around it, and fills the backside of the plate with dirty oil. Which then drains all over the deck. Note that the 316L has a ninety degree angle. To this, I have attached a short piece of heavy clear tubing of the same kind I use to drain from the valve into an old oil jug. No clamps on the short tubing; it fits quite tightly. The short piece has a plug of RTV. This keeps dirt out of the end of the valve, and also serves as a safety of sorts in the unlikely event the valve leaks. I also use the little safety clip thingie. The skid plate offers considerable protection for the valve. There's some pictures up here:The "F106N" looks like the correct version, but I was hoping to hear from someone with first-hand experience.