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funny thing is about rolling coal, most modern tunes are super clean. my 22 diesel barely rolls anything.

and so what if people do, stop being a bunch of Karens.
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I think its funny people believe all of the crap the gov feeds them. OMG we are all going to die if we dont stop farting! Ya'll are brainwashed and are being lied to so some politician can get richer.

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Boring

funny thing is about rolling coal, most modern tunes are super clean. my 22 diesel barely rolls anything.

and so what if people do, stop being a bunch of Karens.
Maybe stop being a Chad and doing stupid things. Do you need a diesel tune to feel like a man? Most of those big diesel guys are insecure pussies
 

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Maybe stop being a Chad and doing stupid things. Do you need a diesel tune to feel like a man? Most of those big diesel guys are insecure pussies

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@JesseT 's statement is actually exactly correct. The fact that you can't understand the arguments and comprehend that tens of thousands to millions of years of evolution were required for species, of which there are a nonzero number of surviving examples of the changes you are talking about, to adapt exposes that your first two sentences are better said to a mirror than at the other members here.

To quote you, "But keep trying, maybe you'll figure it out someday."
I think the point is there is no argument to understand. Co2 is not the "warming" driver you think it is.
At the end of the day Co2 is plant oxygen. Since you look to be concern by the level plant more tree. or yet be more productive and do a organic farm, you will be sucking co2 and feeding the world.
 

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As someone with experience in the that field and who once WAS one of those folks...the idea of a "consensus" is hilarious. Anyone who tells you there is is no different than those "celebrities who have no scientific competence of any kind".
Oh, I am intimately aware of how much fighting there is in scientific circles. Perhaps the term 'consensus' shouldn't be used literally, but I don't feel it is completely disingenuous to use that word on this topic in this context.
 

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Oh, I am intimately aware of how much fighting there is in scientific circles. Perhaps the term 'consensus' shouldn't be used literally, but I don't feel it is completely disingenuous to use that word on this topic in this context.
It is a problem when one claims that there is a "consensus" on anything relating to what lies in our climate future or the factors that are causing whatever change may be happening. It gives the impression that we have something figured out and we absolutely do not.

Subjectively - it is logical to assume that a planet of 9B humans consuming the way we do must have some bearing on the climate of said planet...but the idea that we are solely responsible for the warming, or even mostly responsible for it, or that we even know that the warming is an anomaly and not a normal cycle, or that we have any clue what we can do about it...mere speculation. We really have no clue.
 

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is arguing over this on a jeep forum going to make a difference whatsoever? even if one of you managed to change all of our minds, would that make any difference? lol.

but if you enjoy arguing....knock yourself out.

or maybe go to law school.
 

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is arguing over this on a jeep forum going to make a difference whatsoever? even if one of you managed to change all of our minds, would that make any difference? lol.

but if you enjoy arguing....knock yourself out.

or maybe go to law school.
Good point. One must consider how much energy is being used on a server farm somewhere to enable us to have this debate and where that energy is coming from. What do you think the carbon footprint of a snarky reply is? I hope this is a nuclear-powered forum and not a coal-fired one.
 

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funny thing is about rolling coal, most modern tunes are super clean. my 22 diesel barely rolls anything.

and so what if people do, stop being a bunch of Karens.
Why is it every time this argument comes up the Coal Rolling Bro Dozers get brought up ? They certainly don’t comply with standards, tuners have been busted and fined $M’s.

new tech is evolving, I read yesterday that MB has developed a Solar Paint to help charge adding up to over 7000mi of range annually, location dependent. It won’t be the last.
 

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Why is it every time this argument comes up the Coal Rolling Bro Dozers get brought up ? They certainly don’t comply with standards, tuners have been busted and fined $M’s.

no idea. jealousy? idiocy?

i dont care if a bro rolls coal, not my truck not my problem.

same as i dont care if you drive an ev and have a man bun, not my problem.
 

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There is some big thumbs on the free market scale, not sure they are all for the reported reason.


Follow the money...Simple and true, pull back the curtain and look at which politicians (BOTH SIDES) are selling us down the river...
Or, teach me the math that allows sooo many 'public servants' with annual incomes in the $150K'ish range to become multi-multi millionaires...
 

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Follow the money...Simple and true, pull back the curtain and look at which politicians (BOTH SIDES) are selling us down the river...
Or, teach me the math that allows sooo many 'public servants' with annual incomes in the $150K'ish range to become multi-multi millionaires...
I got bag full of example on that topic, but this will sum it up good :)

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