Changing Tires, an easier way.

[Jeffy56]

While drinking a weekly beer at a remote location just below the Mogollon Rim, I noticed another regular. The older gent (70+) had severely bruised and bloodied arms. A little bit to the face as well. I asked what happened? Flat tire on Toyota Tacoma 4x4 P/U, the small truck. He could not get the lug nuts off, had difficulty lowering the spare, as well operating the jack. Whew! I'm not that far away. I decided to be proactive and procure tools and adapters for the Jeeps 22mm nuts and jack. I already had lots of Ryobi tools, batteries, and chargers. So I went that way. That size impact (P262) will get the nuts loose.

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[Jeffy56]

I tried to size the jack shaft(s), no way. Some weird size. FCA should have made them standard 3/8" drive socket. I did find on Amazon an adapter coupling to allow 1/2" drive or 13/16" socket. Dr Roc, while Chinese, Amazon it had on the shelf. I had to shave down the rubber nubs on the hand turning rubber.

 

[Jeffy56]

I bought a nyloc nut (10mm x 1.5 thread) to secure it cause it wobbles. Go slow. Hard to film and jack with one hand

 

[jaymz]

Why a 10” extension? A deep socket and maybe a short 2-3” extension is more than enough. Preferably impact rated.

 

[Jeffy56]

Why a 10” extension? A deep socket and maybe a short 2-3” extension is more than enough. Preferably impact rated.

I have that too. Just added the longer 1/2" drive "just in case" or for assisting non jeep vehicles. It all fits in the cubby along with chock, light, shovel, toiletry bag, tow strap, extra gloves.

 

[NWJeepr]

If your lug nuts are torqued to proper spec, you shouldn't need to carry an impact if you are of average strength. Nice to have, yes. It is another tool to carry and maintain.

 

[J0E]

While drinking a weekly beer at a remote location just below the Mogollon Rim, I noticed another regular. The older gent (70+) had severely bruised and bloodied arms. A little bit to the face as well. I asked what happened? Flat tire on Toyota Tacoma 4x4 P/U, the small truck. He could not get the lug nuts off, had difficulty lowering the spare, as well operating the jack. Whew! I'm not that far away. I decided to be proactive and procure tools and adapters for the Jeeps 22mm nuts and jack. I already had lots of Ryobi tools, batteries, and chargers. So I went that way. That size impact (P262) will get the nuts loose.

I've got several dozen Ryobi tools. My lead carpenter convinced me to switch to Ryobi 2 years ago. My stretched LJR on 43's has the twin ARB compressor, by my TJR and JLR use quad Ryobi (tiny) compressors. I carry a Ryobi 12" chain saw, cut off too, this torque monster impact driver, several flashlight and other Ryobi tools.

This Scissor jack fits where the factory jack sits and is ready for the impact driver to spin it.

But if you want to talk about changing tires easier, my short flat blade shovel is the best trick for off road tire changing. But a better trick is upgrading to tons. It's easier to change the 150 pound 43's on my stretched LJR than the the 38's on my JLR even though the 43 stickies are 50 pounds heavier. All you need to do is slip the hub over the axle flange, no need to line up all the studs.

 

[Jeffy56]

If your lug nuts are torqued to proper spec, you shouldn't need to carry an impact if you are of average strength. Nice to have, yes. It is another tool to carry and maintain.

Yes I can still break them loose. I use a torque wrench on them to correct when tires get rotated, etc. But why work that hard? Especially in the dirt, in Lord knows what conditions.

 

[OldGuyNewJeep]

If your lug nuts are torqued to proper spec, you shouldn't need to carry an impact if you are of average strength. Nice to have, yes. It is another tool to carry and maintain.

Yes, 100%

I literally just walked inside from rotating my tires. 18” breaker bar and 22mm socket makes VERY easy work of loosening the lugs. I am anal and always torque to exactly 130 ft-lbs.

I personally keep impacts far away from lugs. I’ve seen people cross-thread or over torque too many times.

 

[jaymz]

Yes, 100%

I literally just walked inside from rotating my tires. 18” breaker bar and 22mm socket makes VERY easy work of loosening the lugs. I am anal and always torque to exactly 130 ft-lbs.

I personally keep impacts far away from lugs. I’ve seen people cross-thread or over torque too many times.

I’ve changed 1000’s of tires over the last 40 years. 99% involved an impact wrench, and I have never put a torque wrench on a lug nut. I’ve had exactly zero failures of any kind.

I must be lucky. ?

 

[azjl#3]

If your lug nuts are torqued to proper spec, you shouldn't need to carry an impact if you are of average strength. Nice to have, yes. It is another tool to carry and maintain.

Ditto, his was overtorqued by discount tire or the like. The guy at the Ford dealer in Star Valley still uses a tq wrench to install every tire lugnut.

That said, my 20v milwakee impact will NOT losen an overtorqued nut. But I use it to remove and hand tighten all the nuts quickly. Also a huge lugnut wrench. I also carry a breaker bar with an unused hollow aluminum jack handle from a busted HF floor jack, fits right over breaker bar and I have personally removed 225ft/lb nuts with the thing. Also works as self defense bat.

That or call USAA roadside...

 

[azjl#3]

I’ve changed 1000’s of tires over the last 40 years. 99% involved an impact wrench, and I have never put a torque wrench on a lug nut. I’ve had exactly zero failures of any kind.

I must be lucky. ?

No, your very experienced and can tell what 80-90ft/lbs feels like. I'm old, 50 feels like 90 now. I buy concrete in 60lb bags, I ask how do they fit 90 lbs in there.

 

[OldGuyNewJeep]

I’ve changed 1000’s of tires over the last 40 years. 99% involved an impact wrench, and I have never put a torque wrench on a lug nut. I’ve had exactly zero failures of any kind.

I must be lucky. ?

?‍ I just do it by the book and don’t need luck, but to each his own!

 

[jaymz]

No, your very experienced and can tell what 80-90ft/lbs feels like. I'm old, 50 feels like 90 now. I buy concrete in 60lb bags, I ask how do they fit 90 lbs in there.

I’m 54. 50’s not old. Not everyday anyhow.
I do agree with the concrete though. They’re the definition of 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound sack.

 

[Jeffy56]

I know what my pneumatic impact torque is at what setting. The approximately 100 ft-lbs was perfect for my previous trucks. The Jeep owner's manual is calling for 130 ft-lbs that requires a little more and finish with the torque wrench. The Ryobi electric is a bit different and I'll dial that in. This whole post is just one way, of many, but relatively easy to accomplish.

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