Change destination on Nav while driving

[allieboy]

Can't a destination be entered while moving using voice command? Asking for a friend.

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[Majestic]

I don't like a lot of the nannies any more than the next person. This one I don't mind.
Despite the fact the we are all individually "the best driver on the planet", this much distraction can endanger us and everyone else in the path of our vehicle.
Voice commands work ok, especially if using Google Maps.

Unless Google maps are gonna be standard on all cars and for all phones as the default voice command, everybody else is going to just use their phones.

 

[Majestic]

Can't a destination be entered while moving using voice command? Asking for a friend.

You can, but it kinda sucks if doors or roof are off, or if you have kids who don’t stop talking while you’re trying to navigate.

 

[ebelp]

Unless Google maps are gonna be standard on all cars and for all phones as the default voice command, everybody else is going to just use their phones.

Speaking of Google Maps...you can use your voice or your iPhone to input a destination with CarPlay while in motion.

 

[OldBird]

You can, but it kinda sucks if doors or roof are off, or if you have kids who don’t stop talking while you’re trying to navigate.

My kids know better than to interrupt my conversations with my Jeep. Those are personal, the kids know to just stay out of it!

 

[Majestic]

Speaking of Google Maps...you can use your voice or your iPhone to input a destination with CarPlay while in motion.

One would wonder why they ship factory nav at all if they're just going to count on you using Carplay.
A better idea would be if FCA stop pretending they cared and just let you put addresses in motion. They don't mind you scrolling through every recent destination in motion, nor do they have a problem with you viewing sports scores in motion, yet this is where they draw the line? FCA's factory navs have always been retarded like this.

 

[Stingrey]

Unless Google maps are gonna be standard on all cars and for all phones as the default voice command, everybody else is going to just use their phones.

2016 Global smartphones where 86% Android so at least the majority would seem to already have Google Maps. Download the maps right to the phone, free, and you don't need to use data while driving either. The other 14% can install it on their iPhone...if they choose.
If you're not using a smartphone then you're in a different category. Just use the built in Nav voice commands. Let's keep our eyes on what's in front of us while we're driving.

edit:
I don't understand why any of us would feel as though it's acceptable to be staring and typing on a keyboard down, front and centre, while we are driving.
Do the same people think that it's acceptable to text on their phone while driving?
I know the old Nav argument "if i have a passenger they will do the typing" but we all now the reality is that we're going to do it ourselves if there's no passenger in the car. It's human nature.

Sorry....I'm rarely this preachy but I have seen too many needless injuries and death caused by distracted driving of this nature.

 

[Majestic]

2016 Global smartphones where 86% Android so at least the majority would seem to already have Google Maps. Download the maps right to the pnoene, free, and you don't need to use data while driving either. The other 14% can install it on their iPhone...if they choose.
If you're not using a smartphone then you're in a different category. Just use the built in Nav voice commands. Let's keep our eyes on what's in front of us while we're driving.

You can't have infotainment ship with a car and tell people to keep their eyes on what's in front of us. The two clearly are at odds with each other.

FCA's in motion lockout has always been stupid long before Carplay and back when their voice command system required you to memorize all their keywords and say them 40 times before it got it right. You can't input the destination in motion, but you can however scroll through pages of recent destinations in motion, view weather maps, sports scores, gas prices, scroll through every XM category, and use 99% of the rest of the infotainment system. What FCA finds too distracting is odd to say the least.
At some point you just have to trust the driver's judgement which is what people had to do back when they were smoking while using paper maps while driving while trying to fast forward to the right song on their cassette.

My work phone is an Android, my personal phone is an iPhone and the vehicle comes with it's own voice commands. I now consistently flip between 4 different navigation maps while driving. The OEM navigation has better dead reckoning and uses no data and doesn't cook my phone battery (feel how hot your phone gets using Google Maps all day) so it's on all the time on long trips. It's traffic reporting is terrible though and you can't do anything in motion. Apple Maps is easiest to use if you have an iPhone, but it's not as good as Waze for traffic. Google however allows you see satellite view which is sometimes handy but isn't as good as Waze for traffic and isn't as easy to use as Apple Maps. Don't get me started finding the correct charger and plugging them in while driving. My phone sometimes makes me log into my phone while driving to read me my text messages (I have an Apple Watch too so sometimes I just read my text on my wrist while driving because it's "less distracting").

Navigation is one of those weird technologies where they attempt to bill it as "safer" but it usually just ends up being a deflection of liability. It's not a regulated safety feature like seatbelts or airbags, so when it comes to commonality, it's the wild west out there with manufactures all trying to figure out how to deflect blame while offering everything people want. Honda for example used to let you input addresses at any time in motion but would not even let you use the radio unless you hit the "ok" button after the long legal disclaimer that came on after every startup (which apparently was ok to read while driving.

 

[Stingrey]

@Majestic ,
I get where you're coming from. No question that the system has conflicting levels of access.
But, there is no sense in allowing people to be typing names and addresses while driving. That's proven to be one of the most dangerous things people do while driving.
I get that we may need to look at the screen to quickly set something. That's far different than the attention we require to type an address.

 

[cram501]

@Majestic ,
I get where you're coming from. No question that the system has conflicting levels of access.
But, there is no sense in allowing people to be typing names and addresses while driving. That's proven to be one of the most dangerous things people do while driving.
I get that we may need to look at the screen to quickly set something. That's far different than the attention we require to type an address.

You can tell stupid people not to be stupid but it doesn't work. Everyone is stupid on occasion and you can't stop that either. I don't mind a nag or other means that require an acknowledgement.

I just wish that if they detected someone in the passenger seat, they would allow input. It wouldn't stop someone from overriding it, but see above.

An old Acura I had allowed access to everything in the Nav while moving. It worked great if the passenger wanted access.

 

[Majestic]

@Majestic ,
I get where you're coming from. No question that the system has conflicting levels of access.
But, there is no sense in allowing people to be typing names and addresses while driving. That's proven to be one of the most dangerous things people do while driving.
I get that we may need to look at the screen to quickly set something. That's far different than the attention we require to type an address.

FCA doesn’t do this for your safety, they do it so you you don’t sue them.

 

[Stingrey]

FCA doesn’t do this for your safety, they do it so you you don’t sue them.

Of course that's why they and most other companies have a Nav lockout.
I am still glad they do it anyway.

 

[nerubi]

FCA has more cautious lawyers than some other companies. Since 99% of people don't read the owner's manual that same group aren't going to read a disclaimer on the screen. But those lawyers will argue they tried to prevent it when the driver typing into the nav crosses the center line and hits a van full of nuns holding puppies.
I learned a valuable fact in my law enforcement career - 99% of people don't use what should be common sense. But if they are the majority of people is what they do then common sense?
As to the weight of passenger on the seat modification to change nav while driving the anti-nanny group will just put a 100 pounds of something in the passenger seat to bypass it.

 

[Majestic]

Of course that's why they and most other companies have a Nav lockout.
I am still glad they do it anyway.

You can use the Uconnect app to send an address to your own car’s navigation while driving. Instead of using the big in dash screen you just whip out your phone and basically just text it to yourself.
There’s a workaround for everything and companies are just incentivized to do the bare minimum.

 

[Majestic]

FCA has more cautious lawyers than some other companies. Since 99% of people don't read the owner's manual that same group aren't going to read a disclaimer on the screen. But those lawyers will argue they tried to prevent it when the driver typing into the nav crosses the center line and hits a van full of nuns holding puppies.
I learned a valuable fact in my law enforcement career - 99% of people don't use what should be common sense. But if they are the majority of people is what they do then common sense?
As to the weight of passenger on the seat modification to change nav while driving the anti-nanny group will just put a 100 pounds of something in the passenger seat to bypass it.

Funny thing is from a legal standpoint, it’s extremely weak. There’s so many other things in modern infotainment that’s distracting or so poorly done that it becomes distracting trying to do it right that any legal disclaimer or lockout feature would fail as a legal defense.
The most likely defense would be to deflect all responsibility onto the driver in the event of an accident in which case the lockout is just an annoying nanny feature.
There’s actually no regulations on this. Some cars lock it out, others force you to just click “ok” on the disclaimer, and Tesla allows you to use a full web browser while driving.

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