Brighter Fogs that oem leds?

[Mx5red]

They’re actually not halogens! They’re the LED DRL’s on my fender flares. Although, the halogens on my JK were not far off!

Thank god, those would be unsafe headlights!

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[Huntnfish85]

I’m happy with my Diode Dynamic SS3 Pro Yellow SAE fog light kit

https://www.diodedynamics.com/ss3-led-fog-light-kit-for-2018-2022-jeep-jl-wrangler.html

 

[XX4XEXX]

BD and KC are the way to go. I have KC and they are awesome.

 

[AcesandEights]

For those who have upgraded your stock fogs for a set of brighter SAE approved lights, are you aiming them the same as stock?
My stock LED fogs light up the road about 15 feet in front of the Jeep which isn’t really useful if I’m going more than 5 mph. I fail to see how having a brighter hotspot that close would improve anything. Were mine just aimed wrong from the factory or am I missing something?

You're on to something, and although it is based on fact and reason, it won't be popular.

Fog lights are not useful for the driver. You will over-drive them (meaning your vehicle will travel farther than the usable light and your reaction time) at any reasonable speed. Fog lights used on-road are not for you as the driver, but for other drivers to see you.

Aftermarket fog lights are a "pattern", and can provide useful light at slow speed, but based on the pattern (not lumens) lose their usefulness at about 20 - 25 mph. They are all but useless in most on-road driving situations. You've traveled farther than the afforded light before your reaction time. Therefore, an aftermarket fog light is only really useful off-road, and under 20 mph.

The flip side of that is that the useful light of many aftermarket on-road lights is so bright, with a pattern so far ahead of you, that they provide more light than you need. In my opinion, a good set of halogen lights provide more than enough light at a significantly lower cost. If you need a three-second reaction time, you could drive hundreds of miles per hour with some of the popular set ups. Is more reaction time better, probably, but probably with diminishing returns. So, you can buy a set of lights for $75 that provide all of the light you "need" to drive safely at highway speed. Or, you can spend four or five times that and have the same (practical) level of safety with a much farther reaching light.

Your factory fogs were aimed correctly, but they aren't helpful for the driver.

 

[AMT]

These are pretty bright. The switchback option is nice, too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075XFPMLJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Cyber_Jeeper]

You're on to something, and although it is based on fact and reason, it won't be popular.

Fog lights are not useful for the driver. You will over-drive them (meaning your vehicle will travel farther than the usable light and your reaction time) at any reasonable speed. Fog lights used on-road are not for you as the driver, but for other drivers to see you.

Aftermarket fog lights are a "pattern", and can provide useful light at slow speed, but based on the pattern (not lumens) lose their usefulness at about 20 - 25 mph. They are all but useless in most on-road driving situations. You've traveled farther than the afforded light before your reaction time. Therefore, an aftermarket fog light is only really useful off-road, and under 20 mph.

The flip side of that is that the useful light of many aftermarket on-road lights is so bright, with a pattern so far ahead of you, that they provide more light than you need. In my opinion, a good set of halogen lights provide more than enough light at a significantly lower cost. If you need a three-second reaction time, you could drive hundreds of miles per hour with some of the popular set ups. Is more reaction time better, probably, but probably with diminishing returns. So, you can buy a set of lights for $75 that provide all of the light you "need" to drive safely at highway speed. Or, you can spend four or five times that and have the same (practical) level of safety with a much farther reaching light.

Your factory fogs were aimed correctly, but they aren't helpful for the driver.

That matches my experience. The fog lights are a bit helpful in slow speeds while off-roading. But I almost never have them turned on while on road, it just doesn’t make a difference because I out run the beam too quickly.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Fog lights are extremely useful for the driver. What you’re expecting of them isn’t what they’re for. If you expect them to usefully illuminate far down the road at highway speeds then you have the wrong lights. Of course they won’t, because that’s not how fog lights are useful. First of all, if you’re traveling at highway speeds in fog, you’re doing it wrong. Slow down. Secondly, they are for the driver to be able to see the road and markings just ahead and to the sides while driving slowly. To see a curve or vehicle ahead of you. They’re aimed low on purpose for that reason and also so that they don’t simply shine directly into thick fog which only throws glare back at you and doesn’t allow you to see down the road any better.

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