2 DOOR JL build/order discussions master thread

[cfenoglio]

Does anyone have any idea as to whether switching from premium soft top to regular soft top would expedite the production/ shipping process?

I'm heading to the beach the week of memorial day and would do anything to have my order arrive before then. Unfortunately, I checked the box for premium soft top instead of regular.

I had my dealer shoot for a change from premium soft to black hard, but asked to try to not loose my place in line, will see

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[PavementWarrior]

I think you are a little confused

Not at all, just clearing up your confusion

 

[PavementWarrior]

What is "whistle stop"? Is it a stoppage of the line for a quality control issue

Whistletop, no stop. Was a joke referring to the whistling some people are getting. Hopefully the water profiling they are doing on the first 2 door hard tops will help them sort out most of the issues.


I wonder what the warranty policy is for leaks or wind whistling.

 

[Rubi]

Whistletop, no stop. Was a joke referring to the whistling some people are getting. Hopefully the water profiling they are doing on the first 2 door hard tops will help them sort out most of the issues.


I wonder what the warranty policy is for leaks or wind whistling.

It will be fixed. I had a leak with my ‘12 JKR that was fixed by replacing the rubber gasket between the windshield frame and the Freedom tops.

I don’t understand all the fuss that is detailed on another thread devoted exclusively to wind noise. If there’s any issue it should be taken care of under warranty.

 

[Jax2578]

Looks like the weather may help with water profiling. Googling Toledo weather has them with a lot of rain for the next 10 days.

 

[PavementWarrior]

It will be fixed. I had a leak with my ‘12 JKR that was fixed by replacing the rubber gasket between the windshield frame and the Freedom tops.

I don’t understand all the fuss that is detailed on another thread devoted exclusively to wind noise. If there’s any issue it should be taken care of under warranty.

Gaskets are not a huge concern, the frame rewleding that is or atleast was going is a concern. It should get sorted out in the first few months

 

[warc1]

You are wrong this is not a quality control issue.

a re-weld is not like oh say a bad connector. It occured as part of some process, which guessing is due to the tops/body not aligning, and the unit gets pulled to the side for this process. This process is leaving unpainted frame exposed to rust. This is not a quality process.

I think you are a little confused

Not at all, just clearing up your confusion

I have to admit I'm confused. How is a manufacturing process failure not a quality control issue? I'm trying hard to come up with an example of a quality control issue that isn't process related. Using your example of a bad connector, it's either bad because quality control for the manufacture the connector failed or it failed during installation of the connector. Either way, they are process issues.

There are examples of quality issued caused by material defects, but again, those are quality control issues regarding the process of material production or selection. In short, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

 

[PavementWarrior]

I have to admit I'm confused. How is a manufacturing process failure not a quality control issue? I'm trying hard to come up with an example of a quality control issue that isn't process related. Using your example of a bad connector, it's either bad because quality control for the manufacture the connector failed or it failed during installation of the connector. Either way, they are process issues.

There are examples of quality issued caused by material defects, but again, those are quality control issues regarding the process of material production or selection. In short, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Exactly, I was replying to jman who said a frame being re-welded after being dipped and left to rust was not a quality control issue. My point is that it certainly is a quality control issue.

Its not super surpising, Jeep is very low rated for quality these days

 

[warc1]

Exactly, I was replying to jman who said a frame being re-welded after being dipped and left to rust was not a quality control issue. My point is that it certainly is a quality control issue.

jman can come to his own defence, but that's not my interpretation. His exact words were "One is hardly a quality control issue", which appeared to be speaking to the scope of the issue as opposed to the nature of it. Hence my confusion.

 

[PavementWarrior]

jman can come to his own defence, but that's not my interpretation. His exact words were "One is hardly a quality control issue", which appeared to be speaking to the scope of the issue as opposed to the nature of it. Hence my confusion.

/boggle

 

[jman]

Exactly, I was replying to jman who said a frame being re-welded after being dipped and left to rust was not a quality control issue. My point is that it certainly is a quality control issue.

Its not super surpising, Jeep is very low rated for quality these days

Umm I never said that

 

[alltimesaresoon]

Get a room please. Dm each other

 

[Fred]

I tell Jeep Chat that I am in D1 and ask if they can give me an actual build date. Their answer is something like "Your Jeep is in D1, the parts are all collected and it should enter the build process soon." Uh... OK, thanks. Let's hope to see a mass movement into E by next week! Time to make our new two door Wrangler a reality! Have a good weekend everyone!

 

[FLYBOY]

Ordered Dec 18, 2017, went D a day or two after that. Now have been 26 days in D1! Does anyone really have PROOF that the 2 door regular production has really started - and NOTHING from Jeep Chat holds any water! I question the validity of the the info that a couple people received that they moved into the assembly process. I am not questioning their honesty, just the honesty of Jeep officialdom. Are there ANY regular production 2 doors in buyers hands or even at a dealer?
As an example of the BS we get out of Jeep Chat, they told me this morning that 2 door production was pushed back to May!
Getting info out of my dealer is like pulling teeth. He blames it on FCA, who he says is the worst for informing their dealers. Somehow, I believe him!
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