392 first service question

[ReconMZ]

The dealer service manager told me they use 0w40 but didn't specify the brand. is any 0w40 ok?
Do I specifically demand a brand / can I? Alternatively supply my own?

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[jessedacri]

The dealer service manager told me they use 0w40 but didn't specify the brand. is any 0w40 ok?
Do I specifically demand a brand / can I? Alternatively supply my own?

I don't believe you can do much at the dealer beyond either take it or leave it in terms of oil brand/viscosity - they will likely only carry or touch the official manufacturer approved varieties. Most you can do is badger them about making sure they're doing it right for your specific engine. In the early 2018-2019 JLs we had to basically fight the dealers to make sure they were putting 5qt into the 3.6 as the JL version is designed for rather than the 6qt they were used to tossing in every other JK and other FCA 3.6 prior to 2018.

I did my own changes at 2k and 6k and then let the dealer do its "first" service / oil change that they wanted to do at 7900 via the free Jeep Wave service. Did my next free Jeep Wave service at 11900, then stopped going to the dealer altogether.

 

[MSparks909]

Pennzoil 0W-40 Ultra Platinum is what’s recommended. I use it and a SRT filter.

 

[gsbrockman]

is any 0w40 ok?

Guess you totally overlooked post #2.......

 

[Kangy]

I balked on the dealership doing my first oil change and did it myself. I used the SRT MO-899 filter though and 0w40 M1 oil. I don't think anything else was due to be looked at @ 5Kmi so... may dealer the next one.

FWIW if you do your own change the filter drainage is just messy. I use pet-pads here to keep oil from draining all over the suspension but somehow knocked it loose from the filter guide and oil went all over the linkages still. My steering dampener dust cover sucked up some of the oil and caused a drip for a day or so too. Watch that area if you change yourself. Took exactly 7qts with the revised metal pan and larger SRT filter.

Which one is the MO-899. I went with the white MO-041 that has SRT on the side, for perfect and much larger. Hope I ordered the right model haha.

And yes, the filter draining is a mess. I used one of my wife's aluminum basting pans from the kitchen, the disposable thin ones, duct taped it to the parts below the filter and at an angle. Make sure to have another 1 or 2 on the ground since it's still a mess but kept it off the parts.

My 2023 with the stock drain pan and 041 took 7.5 qts, which is what my manual says, what year is yours, they must have changed pan design at some point.

 

[Gobirat]

Which one is the MO-899. I went with the white MO-041 that has SRT on the side, for perfect and much larger. Hope I ordered the right model haha.

And yes, the filter draining is a mess. I used one of my wife's aluminum basting pans from the kitchen, the disposable thin ones, duct taped it to the parts below the filter and at an angle. Make sure to have another 1 or 2 on the ground since it's still a mess but kept it off the parts.

My 2023 with the stock drain pan and 041 took 7.5 qts, which is what my manual says, what year is yours, they must have changed pan design at some point.

I haven't got my 392 yet. But can a small hole be punched into the bottom of the filter and a plastic bag held around it. For the oil plug, what about choosing something like the Stahlbus that u attach a hose to and no mess. If not off roading, I don't see issues with many of the self draining plug designs. I am not sure if the drain plug on the 392 is off to the back of the pan or if there is some protection around it. But I will probably go that route

 

[Hpc3]

Which one is the MO-899. I went with the white MO-041 that has SRT on the side, for perfect and much larger. Hope I ordered the right model haha.

And yes, the filter draining is a mess. I used one of my wife's aluminum basting pans from the kitchen, the disposable thin ones, duct taped it to the parts below the filter and at an angle. Make sure to have another 1 or 2 on the ground since it's still a mess but kept it off the parts.

My 2023 with the stock drain pan and 041 took 7.5 qts, which is what my manual says, what year is yours, they must have changed pan design at some point.

The 899 is the slightly smaller black SRT filter, used on the `14+ Charger/Challenger cars. You can find these at some auto parts stores (Autozone/AdvanceAuto).

I have (what I thought was) the updated oil pan... I have the steel 2nd gen version they started using in late 2021. Weird if yours took more... using a pair of 5qt M1 containers mine took exactly 7qt based on the container marks... which may not be that accurate. I'm at 3/4 on the dipstick for oil level reference here.

 

[rickinAZ]

There are so many cautionary tales on here involving oil changes gone bad, I'd consider doing it myself and installing a Fumoto while I was at it. If nothing else, to save time: 15 minute DIY job versus a few hours of traveling/waiting/etc... Your time has to be worth more than the $75 in parts that you'll save by bypassing the Jeep Wave program. Good luck!

 

[Hpc3]

I haven't got my 392 yet. But can a small hole be punched into the bottom of the filter and a plastic bag held around it. For the oil plug, what about choosing something like the Stahlbus that u attach a hose to and no mess. If not off roading, I don't see issues with many of the self draining plug designs. I am not sure if the drain plug on the 392 is off to the back of the pan or if there is some protection around it. But I will probably go that route

Yes there's room for that. If you just cover the suspension (better than I did) that's probably easier.

 

[Kangy]

I haven't got my 392 yet. But can a small hole be punched into the bottom of the filter and a plastic bag held around it. For the oil plug, what about choosing something like the Stahlbus that u attach a hose to and no mess. If not off roading, I don't see issues with many of the self draining plug designs. I am not sure if the drain plug on the 392 is off to the back of the pan or if there is some protection around it. But I will probably go that route

Nice idea, I'll try that on the next change, she only has 750 miles now, I always dump the factory oil and filter around 500, old habits die hard I suppose. - We romp her pretty good, not sure I'll personally go with a self draining plug on the pan, at least the pan on my 2023 the plug is unprotected on the lower rear of the pan, not the bottom, but would still make me nervous. The plug oil was easy to catch, it's just the darn filter gets everywhere, will for sure try your hole idea.

 

[Barney392]

The dealer service manager told me they use 0w40 but didn't specify the brand. is any 0w40 ok?
Do I specifically demand a brand / can I? Alternatively supply my own?

 

[Gobirat]

Nice idea, I'll try that on the next change, she only has 750 miles now, I always dump the factory oil and filter around 500, old habits die hard I suppose. - We romp her pretty good, not sure I'll personally go with a self draining plug on the pan, at least the pan on my 2023 the plug is unprotected on the lower rear of the pan, not the bottom, but would still make me nervous. The plug oil was easy to catch, it's just the darn filter gets everywhere, will for sure try your hole idea.

I love changing my own fluids, at least I know its right and I take pride in that kind of thing. The more I research the self drainers I get it. Some were saying with some of the self drainers it leaves some oil in the pan. I guess if the plug is not pulled, the treaded nipple is still in the pan and allows most of the oil to escape but leaves some at the very bottom. Not sure how much, but I wonder if some people are using to long of threads on some of those units. If the threads meet the thread depth of the pan or a bit past I would think it would work well. I see on one unit after matching the thread pitch etc, you can order the different lengths on the nipple part. But I get the catching part too if off roading hard. Mine will be 90 percent mall crawler lol

 

[rickinAZ]

I love changing my own fluids, at least I know its right and I take pride in that kind of thing. The more I research the self drainers I get it. Some were saying with some of the self drainers it leaves some oil in the pan. I guess if the plug is not pulled, the treaded nipple is still in the pan and allows most of the oil to escape but leaves some at the very bottom. Not sure how much, but I wonder if some people are using to long of threads on some of those units. If the threads meet the thread depth of the pan or a bit past I would think it would work well. I see on one unit after matching the thread pitch etc, you can order the different lengths on the nipple part. But I get the catching part too if off roading hard. Mine will be 90 percent mall crawler lol

As a longtime Fumoto owner, I have to agree that the inward protruding thread issue may trap a small amount of oil in the oil pan, but how badly can a few milimeters of oil contaminate 9 quarts? A zillionth of a percent?

 

[Gobirat]

As a longtime Fumoto owner, I have to agree that the inward protruding thread issue may trap a small amount of oil in the oil pan, but how badly can a few milimeters of oil contaminate 9 quarts? A zillionth of a percent?

Yes there's always some residual oil somewhere for sure. I am wondering more of if the heavy solids or things the filter might not catch would be whats possibly at the very last bit of oil on the bottom. No expert here, just wondering is all. Thats where the magnetic drain plugs magic works

 

[ReconMZ]

The shop's foreman did my service; he used the above oil and did a great job! I checked oil levels and it's good to go.
Thanks, everyone, for the helpful input.

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