Farewell - again…

[Remorseless]

They are maintained worse and covered in sand so maybe youre onto something.

I85 is under construction near constantly. Can't crash and die if you never get going fast enough to crash.

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[yokramer]

I85 is under construction near constantly. Can't crash and die if you never get going fast enough to crash.

But the car behind you may me more rust that metal at this point and the brakes fail and run you over so there are still dangers.

 

[Remorseless]

But the car behind you may me more rust that metal at this point and the brakes fail and run you over so there are still dangers.

If it's rusted enough it's soft enough to cushion you like slightly stabby bean bag chair

 

[ASSFROW]

I believe someone called for forced helmet laws, which would ban the usage of a motorcycle without one, wouldn't it? If we are going to force things upon those in the name of safety, shouldn't we go after the most unsafe things first? Say it with me. NO MORE CHEESEBURGERS!!!

 

[Twisted10]

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Ya Ive heard. Worth the wait also.

 

[Whaler27]

SNIP…
Regulating public roads, fine, regulating private roads? Not fine. Wear a helmet though, don't be like my buddy. THAT is why I'm OK with not regulating it on private property - because government has no business there.

Even this is nuanced. Government has all kinds of business on private property. Suppose a guy commits a rape or a murder on his private ranch. How about the reckless idiot who crashes and maims somebody while doing donuts in a supermarket parking lot? Or the drunk who runs into the UPS driver on his way up the private HOA access road?

Many states resolve these situations by saying that major traffic offenses are enforceable on private property if the area/road is “open to the public”. Basically, if others like UPS have regular access, criminal traffic laws are enforceable (but minor traffic offenses, like seatbelt and helmet violations are not).

 

[Twisted10]

I wish I could find a low mileage 5.9 cummins w a stick.

 

[ASSFROW]

It would not. Helmet and seat belt law violations incur a fine, not a ban on operation of the motorcycle or car. At least in NC, no points on the license are incurred or anything else. You basically just get taxed for being a dummy.

@ASSFROW this one's a strawman, taking a statement to an extreme that was not actually advocated or stated

 

[ASSFROW]

That report is per billion miles traveled. I can easily see why the Corvette and other performance cars are on there. The Bronco is not as clear to me. I haven't heard of many fatalities involving them, but I tend to distance myself away from their inferior stench...

Probably includes the Bronco II

 

[Remorseless]

Even this is nuanced. Government has all kinds of business on private property. Suppose a guy commits a rape or a murder on his private ranch. How about the reckless idiot who crashes and maims somebody while doing donuts in a supermarket parking lot? Or the drunk who runs into the UPS driver on his way up the private HOA access road?

Many states resolve these situations by saying that major traffic offenses are enforceable on private property if the area/road is “open to the public”. Basically, if others like UPS have regular access, criminal traffic laws are enforceable (but minor traffic offenses, like seatbelt and helmet violations are not).

Well, a rape or murder is a violation of another person's rights regardless of where it happens. So I wouldn't expect that to change based on public/private. Same with maiming someone else, or their property, due to negligence.

Think the more apt example would be a single car crash in a parking lot, kid learning to do donuts and nails a light pole, but only doing damage to themselves and/or their property. Does this deserve governmental involvement? Personally, I think not. But I do think there are exceptions when an innocent party is involved.

 

[Remorseless]

Probably includes the Bronco II

Is there a stipulation on how long it takes to cover those billion miles? Cause we could be waiting a long time at the pace some Bronco II drivers drive...

 

[ASSFROW]

Would be a different argument if the government (state or fed) based anything off of safety ratings, but they do not. Nor do I think they should, nor have I advocated they do. They mandate cars sold have certain safety features, such as seat belts, and require you use them on public roads. This is within their authority, IMO. Why wouldn't the government be able to regulate the use of public roads? I can see no argument other than "I don't like government rules", which I get, but also isn't reality.

And clearly the answer is at seat belts and helmets, for compelled actions. They're reasonable. Further things would not be, most likely. Reasonableness is determined by the legislature and confirmed/denied by the courts. Those are the entities with authority over those domains.

And, again based on the wildly broad commerce clause (though, ironically, in this case - cars do actually fall neatly within the text), Congress gets to decide what features constitute safe to sell vehicles in this country, at least as a baseline. Duly elected representatives and all that.

Funny enough, you do have a private tax on your car's safety rating - your insurance.

Untrue, you can drive your car on private property without insurance, or if you are rich enough to self insure. Taxes are also not open to a free market.

 

[Remorseless]

Untrue, you can drive your car on private property without insurance, or if you are rich enough to self insure.

That's fair, albeit atypical to the average person's experience

 

[ASSFROW]

For us it ain't even that high for helmets, $25.50 lmao

For every time you're pulled over, so potentially infinite.

 

[Remorseless]

For every time you're pulled over, so potentially infinite.

Odds of that are real low though, especially if you stuck to country roads

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