yokramer
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Its just a heavier JLU why be redundant?The 4xe is wondering why it's not being mentioned with it's power, and superior handling.
Want speed and handling look no further than the Wrangler 4xe.
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Its just a heavier JLU why be redundant?The 4xe is wondering why it's not being mentioned with it's power, and superior handling.
Want speed and handling look no further than the Wrangler 4xe.
Over here leaving a trail of burning Outbacks and butched up lesbians in flannel vests in your wakeLook... I stop for the red lights. But when the AI doesn't go for a green, I will push that Subaru out of the way!
Do you also drive on the shoulder since there is no speed limit there?Look... I stop for the red lights. But when the AI doesn't go for a green, I will push that Subaru out of the way!
Only when there's people changing flats, he likes to hear the sounds of their tools being scattered by the impactDo you also drive on the shoulder since there is no speed limit there?
I heard the 4xe is the same weight as the 392, but it's a balanced weight, rather than front heavy like the 392.Its just a heavier JLU why be redundant?
I hear 4xe buyers are miserable that they bought one.I heard the 4xe is the same weight as the 392, but it's a balanced weight, rather than front heavy like the 392.
So winning the Baja 400 class doesn't qualify as fast either?i still think thats more of a durability to cost perspective, same as the dakar trucks. its a good example sure but still a far far cry from a jeeps dana44. rockbouncers are a specalized thing, my point was if someone wants a 'more faster' car for going fast offroad, a jeeps not the place really to start.
my reason for mentioning rally cars was just as an example of somethign designed to go as fast as possible on dirt roads, like OP said they saw people doing with gladiators, not because my lifted subaru was going to keep up with my wrangler.
i know those top end rigs still have next to nothing in common with road cars, but thats similar to saying a wrangler is a bad rock crawler because its too heavy, cant fit 44s, and dosent have rear steer. the engineering behind IFS is just better for speed than a solid axle in most cases, and that theory scales. a 90% stock raptor did compete in the baja years ago...
not saying it cant, just saying theres better options and i think the hate comes from that. why would i get a wrangler to go fast when a raptor will cost me the same and do that job better
Again - things that people talking about not fast vehicles say.If you're simply looking at the distance/ time as in true speed, context still matters.
Only the people that bought it mainly for the free $7,500, or cheap lease payments.I hear 4xe buyers are miserable that they bought one.
I think really anyone who bought instead of leased. I think when the lease debate threads come up we can simply point to the 4xe and state "case closed".Only the people that bought it mainly for the free $7,500, or cheap lease payments.
I was in a group at Rausch Creek and I was the only 392. There were JK's, JL's, JLU's, a TJ, an LJ, a Gladiator, and a current gen Bronco. They would make it across every frozen puddle or water crossing, and I'd crack through the ice the moment my front tires touched it. Didn't matter how gentle I was.I heard the 4xe is the same weight as the 392, but it's a balanced weight, rather than front heavy like the 392.
Certainly looks stock to meSo winning the Baja 400 class doesn't qualify as fast either?
https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/jeep-gladiator-wins-class-in-baja-400.22211/
I was trying to count the bypass tubes on that shock and got dizzy.Certainly looks stock to me
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Do you also drive on the shoulder since there is no speed limit there?
Plenty of Carnage on the road itself... Seems like 1.57 update made the AI drivers even worse than they were before, so I get plenty of crashes in...Only when there's people changing flats, he likes to hear the sounds of their tools being scattered by the impact
I was trying to count the bypass tubes on that shock and got dizzy.