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I've been poking around in a few other threads about installing a dual-band radio in my Wrangler. My install isn't too special, but I'd make a couple of decisions that I don't think others have made so I thought I'd share the results for people exploring different options.

Here's the gear I used:


Some existing equipment:

  • VoSwitch JL-300 swithces and relay kit
  • 67 Designs phone mount kit (with the duck pond bar and the phone mount)
  • Wiring doodads: shrink tube, butt connectors, zip ties
  • 12 AWG two-conductor cabie I had left over for a boat project
  • Edge-mount zip tie clips

I already had the VoSwitch kit, and it's nice to be able to kill all the accessories I've added whenever I want to -- maybe for diagnosis, maybe to save battery, whatever. My LED lights are on the switch, plus a solenoid for my winch, the CB radio, and an aux power unit for an extra cigarette lighter jack that I can use for charging batteries.

There are some posts here on the forum about the VoSwitch having problems when mounted in the regular spot on the driver's fender near a VHF antenna on the same fender. I flipped my relay box over and mounted it above my battery. With some spacers, that works fine. (But it also means most wires go through the passenger foot well, which some people don't like stabbing.)

The CB Radio is under the passenger seat with the mic hanging from the passenger grab handle. The FTM-500 control head has a touch screen and a speaker, so I didn't need to mount a speaker anywhere else. Plenty of room under the driver's seat and it was central to the driver's fender, the driver's A-pillar, and a path to the duck pond -- plus power coming through the firewall.

The boot-shaped rubber grommet works great, and I pulled both the RG58 and power through its smallest opening. The antenna and power go behind the plastic on the left hand of the driver's foot well, under the plastic at the door, and then under the carpet to the radio.

For the CAT6 cable, I first removed the HVAC controls and the radio bezel. I removed the radio, too, so I could safely drill downward from the duck pond into the dash. I cut an X into the rubber pad in the duck pond and pulled the cable through. There's lots of steel framing around the radio, but I found a way to go down the left side of the center console to the transmission tunnel and backward under the carpet toward the radio under the seat.

The radio is mounted to its U-shaped bracket. I cut two small slits in the carpet and pushed bolts through, backed by washers, to fasten the radio to the carpet. There's a seam in the carpet that runs laterally, and a heating duct pokes up through it to the foot well of the back seat. The radio sits on the top of the heating duct, so it isn't blocking any airflow or getting heated (or cooled!) by the HVAC system. It sounds floppy, but it's really fine; the carpet is thick, kind of stiff, and under tension from all its contouring and mounting points.

The mic is at the left hand side on the A-pillar mount and works great there. It's a bit tight to the steering wheel, but I think there's plenty of room.

The radio works great, is plenty loud enough, and I'm not having any RFI issues with any of the other electronics. I think I should get a shorter stick for the radio head because it is a bit too far out. Maybe I need to secure the female end of the microphone line. And I think I could've drilled the hole for the head unit line a bit further back, but it's good enough and I can't even see it.

Those are my notes! Happy to answer any questions.

From the driver's B pillar looking in
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.41.38


Along the dash from the driver's mirror to show clearance and projection.
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.41.41


Microphone connection at the bottom of the steering covers, near the ODB2 port
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.41.56


Looking at the duck pond down onto the radio.
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.43.47


From the rear foot well looking forward under the driver's seat to see the radio
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 12.47.58


Here's the antenna mount. The white wire is the power cable.
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.45.59


Here's my "inverted" VoSwitch mount, over the battery. The 2 AWG wire connects the positive battery terminal to the solenoid at the bottom left, and the other side of the solenoid goes to my winch.
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.46.23


Marine-grade power cable along the top of the firewall.
Jeep Wrangler JL Install notes (and pictures!) for Yaesu FTM-500 dual-band ham radio 2023-12-26 11.46.15
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very nice. i am planning on getting the same radio. how are you likeing having the mic on the left side. seems it might dangle and make getting in and out a bit more annoying?
i have been debating on mounting the antenna in the back above the spare tire a remote mount the radio body on the pass side rear cavity where the rear break light assembly is. also want a over head mount for the radio head and mic.
 
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So far, no worries with the mic cable. There's plenty of slack in the extension cable, so I can move the female connector up to near the speaker on the dash, or strap it to the cross bar under the ODB2 connector. The coiled cable drops down along the dash line just fine as it is, so it's not in the way.

I could also swap the CB radio mic location with the ham radio mic location. But no problems so far.

I didn't want to have something up high because it would dangle and sway, and I'd find that annoying. Plus, pulling the wing up the A and/or B pillars is a PITA ... I did it for my rear-mounted dash cam, and when relocating the XM antenna, and it took all day.

The radio itself is great. My only disappointment is that it doesn't have memory banks. 1000 memory locations, but they have to be enabled or disabled individually and I can't enable or disable groups. IT would be great to program each side of the state, or each town I visit on my trips ... but without the banks each channel has to be individually enabled and disabled.

Anyway, lots of ways to install radios, so go with what works for you!
 

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Nice! Thank you for the thorough write up. I have been thinking about 2 radios as well but I have been thinking ham and GMRS.
 

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Not any different from light bars on street vehicles in some states, there are some radios that can do both. Not that you should or would, but can.

Don't forget ham and GMRS both require a license and they are different licenses.
 

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Not any different from light bars on street vehicles in some states, there are some radios that can do both. Not that you should or would, but can.

Don't forget ham and GMRS both require a license and they are different licenses.
yup yup. I am pretty familiar with the radios but it is a good note.
 

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So far, no worries with the mic cable. There's plenty of slack in the extension cable, so I can move the female connector up to near the speaker on the dash, or strap it to the cross bar under the ODB2 connector. The coiled cable drops down along the dash line just fine as it is, so it's not in the way.

I could also swap the CB radio mic location with the ham radio mic location. But no problems so far.

I didn't want to have something up high because it would dangle and sway, and I'd find that annoying. Plus, pulling the wing up the A and/or B pillars is a PITA ... I did it for my rear-mounted dash cam, and when relocating the XM antenna, and it took all day.

The radio itself is great. My only disappointment is that it doesn't have memory banks. 1000 memory locations, but they have to be enabled or disabled individually and I can't enable or disable groups. IT would be great to program each side of the state, or each town I visit on my trips ... but without the banks each channel has to be individually enabled and disabled.

Anyway, lots of ways to install radios, so go with what works for you!
Has CAT 6 cable worked ok? I have read mixed opinions about using it vs The branded version.
 
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Has CAT 6 cable worked ok? I have read mixed opinions about using it vs The branded version.
Works fine for me! What problems have you heard? My cable is from my regular vendor, which I've used to wire everything from my home to production data centers. 3 meters was about half a meter too long, but it looks fine.
 

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Works fine for me! What problems have you heard? My cable is from my regular vendor, which I've used to wire everything from my home to production data centers. 3 meters was about half a meter too long, but it looks fine.
I thought it was in the QST article, but it doesn’t jump out at me looking at it again. It was mentioned somewhere along with the programming cable that could potentially brick the whole thing. I’ll post back if I can find it again.
 
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I thought it was in the QST article, but it doesn’t jump out at me looking at it again. It was mentioned somewhere along with the programming cable that could potentially brick the whole thing. I’ll post back if I can find it again.
This isn't the programming cable. It attaches the radio unit (under the seat) to the head unit (mounted on a 67 Designs stick from my duck pond). You can snap the head onto the radio unit and use a cable that's about 8cm long, included with the radio. Any remote mount is possible with a cable from Yaesu ... that's about three times what I paid for my CAT6 cable.

I just use the Yaesu ADMS programming software to read and write settings to a micro SD card that fits right into the side of the head unit.
 

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This isn't the programming cable. It attaches the radio unit (under the seat) to the head unit (mounted on a 67 Designs stick from my duck pond). You can snap the head onto the radio unit and use a cable that's about 8cm long, included with the radio. Any remote mount is possible with a cable from Yaesu ... that's about three times what I paid for my CAT6 cable.

I just use the Yaesu ADMS programming software to read and write settings to a micro SD card that fits right into the side of the head unit.
It was in the QST product review in the January 2024 edition. 1/2 way through paragraph 6. Just below the measurement summary box.
 
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It was in the QST product review in the January 2024 edition. 1/2 way through paragraph 6. Just below the measurement summary box.
Well, that was convenient! That issue of QST was sitting on my coffee table. I hadn't even noticed the review in there.

All it says is: "Note that a common Ethernet cable is not recommended, as it will impact the operation". But it doesn't say anything about what happened when the reviewer actually tried it, or who made this counter-recommendation, or what problems they observed. It's workin' fine for me!

The review seems pretty iffy. The author copied this text:
1104 Memory Channels including 5 "Home" channels, 50 sets of memories for programmable memory scan and 999 "Basic" memories.
straight from the Yaesu product website.

My only real complaint with the radio is that it has 1000 memories, but no way to bank those memories. I'd love to have a batch of memories for repeaters in each city I visit, and just turn banks on and off as I go. But no such luck.

Maybe the second complaint is no easy way to eliminate a memory from scanning. If some frequency in memory gets a long rag chew or some interference, it would be great to kick it out of scanning with a couple button pushes. Icom radios do this with the "quick menu", but Yaesu has no similar feature and you've got to navigate through editing the memory channel the whole way.
 

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Well, that was convenient! That issue of QST was sitting on my coffee table. I hadn't even noticed the review in there.

All it says is: "Note that a common Ethernet cable is not recommended, as it will impact the operation". But it doesn't say anything about what happened when the reviewer actually tried it, or who made this counter-recommendation, or what problems they observed. It's workin' fine for me!

The review seems pretty iffy. The author copied this text:


straight from the Yaesu product website.

My only real complaint with the radio is that it has 1000 memories, but no way to bank those memories. I'd love to have a batch of memories for repeaters in each city I visit, and just turn banks on and off as I go. But no such luck.

Maybe the second complaint is no easy way to eliminate a memory from scanning. If some frequency in memory gets a long rag chew or some interference, it would be great to kick it out of scanning with a couple button pushes. Icom radios do this with the "quick menu", but Yaesu has no similar feature and you've got to navigate through editing the memory channel the whole way.
I have already ordered a shielded CAT 6 based on your experience. I do appreciate the advice. I’ll post an update when I get it together.
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Very nice write-up. I installed the Yaesu FTM-300 in my Jeep. I installed it under the drivers seat and used an ARB dual compressor bracket to mount to using rivet nuts. I ran the cables to the display the same way and it works great. I used BulletPoint for mounting and mount the mic to the left side threads in the grab handle. I have a manual so I couldn't have one hand shifting and the other on the mic, so I have to choose. Great that the speaker is in the display as mine is in the head unit under the seat. I am going to mount a speaker on the dash to increase the volume and allow for listening to the radio as well (instead of plugging into the aux port).
 

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There are some posts here on the forum about the VoSwitch having problems when mounted in the regular spot on the driver's fender near a VHF antenna on the same fender. I flipped my relay box over and mounted it above my battery. With some spacers, that works fine. (But it also means most wires go through the passenger foot well, which some people don't like stabbing.)

Here's my "inverted" VoSwitch mount, over the battery. The 2 AWG wire connects the positive battery terminal to the solenoid at the bottom left, and the other side of the solenoid goes to my winch.
2023-12-26 11.46.23.jpg
I'm looking at installing my VOSwitch JL300 soon, there's too much gear on the driver side of a 4XE that the JL300's mounting plate would press against, so I'm planning on installing it on the passenger side as well. I figured I would need some spaces to lift the plate slightly so that its not pressing as much on the battery. You mentioned spacers in your post, where did you install them and how thick of a spacer did you use?

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