Official: Hurricane Twin-Turbo 3.0 I-6 Coming for Jeep - HO with 510HP and 500 ft-lbs!

[2nd 392]

Does anyone think they might come out with a non-turbo version for the wrangler?

No— they are streamlining mfg, not expanding it, Just to promote another engine with similar performance numbers to existing ones ,

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[Shibadog]

That sounds about right, I remember looking at them back then. I think it was only with the 6cyl, don't think it was available on the 4cyl. Then there was screwy drivetrain limitations too and why I didn't buy,.. kind of like now.

Oh they had a 4 alright. It was a real powerhouse (?). My first year TJ with a manual had it. Had to downshift on the slab to pull the hills in IOWA?

 

[Kyanche]

This Hurricane engine is long! If you look up the specs it about 5 yes 5 inches longer then the 392.
Sure they can fit it in a wrangler, just remove the grill.

That sounds like it was only made to fit inside the hood of a pickup truck. It's not going to fit inside the pacifica or pretty much anything else they make lol.

 

[AFD]

That sounds like it was only made to fit inside the hood of a pickup truck. It's not going to fit inside the pacifica or pretty much anything else they make lol.

"The Hurricane twin-turbo I-6 is the primary internal combustion power plant of the future in North America for vehicles using the STLA Large and STLA Frame platforms."

https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=23660


The STLA Large is to replace D/E/F-segments (Chrysler 300, the Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Magnum and Charger, the Alfa Giulia and Stelvio, the Maserati Grecale, GranTurismo, Quattroporte, Ghibli and Levante).

The STLA Frame is to replace the body-on-frame Wrangler JL and Ram DT platforms.

Makes me wonder if we won't be seeing a larger rollout (outside of the Grand Wagoneer) until everything transitions to the new EV platforms first, though this also makes me wonder if a new JM Wrangler on the STLA Frame platform would leave the 2-door completely in the dust.

 

[Heimkehr]

Does anyone think they might come out with a non-turbo version for the wrangler?

Doubtful. The horsepower wars show no sign of abating. Consider, for example, the constant gnashing of teeth on this very forum regarding the 392's absence in the two-door Wrangler.

Granted, this time around, said wars are a collateral effect of having to motivate the ever-increasing GVWRs of vehicles weighed down with the latest safety or convenience packages, and particularly the additional sheet metal intended to address ever-stricter Federal vehicle crash standards. That this weight in turn negatively affects the OEM's ability to meet ever-stricter CAFE standards has the collateral effect of motivating the forced transition to electric vehicles.

It's all one big vicious circle, for which the consumer's wallet is really -- and involuntarily -- taking one for the team.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Here are the OAL measurements for the current engines available in the Wrangler:

2.0L = 484mm
3.6L = 503mm
6.4L = 609mm

I searched, but could not find the length of the Hurricane--anyone have it?

 

[AFD]

Here are the OAL measurements for the current engines available in the Wrangler:

2.0L = 484mm
3.6L = 503mm
6.4L = 609mm

I searched, but could not find the length of the Hurricane--anyone have it?

728mm or maybe 831mm for S.O. variant?

Not 100% sure, but when undefined, measurements are usually length, width, height with the length being the front and width being from front to back. Looking at pictures of the engine, it definitely appears taller than any other dimension, but maybe a bit wider vs front to back length.

Edit; Length is always the longest side. And after looking at the engine pics from different angles, it still looks wider than front to back length, so I'd say it's 728mm front-to-back for the S.O. and 737mm for the H.O. variant (see below for engine pics).

"In practical terms, it will fit anywhere the 3.6L Pentastar V6 or Hemi fits, provided you're talking about RWD platforms. For those who want to do their own measuring, the standard output Hurricane measures 33.4 inches x 28.7 inches x 32.7 inches. The high-output checks in at 33.9" x 29.0" x 33.4"."

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/03/25/stellantis-hurricane-i6-hemi-replacement/

 

[CarbonSteel]

728mm or maybe 831mm for S.O. variant?

Not 100% sure, but when undefined, measurements are usually length, width, height with the length being the front and width being from front to back. Looking at pictures of the engine, it definitely appears taller than any other dimension, but maybe a bit wider vs front to back length.

"In practical terms, it will fit anywhere the 3.6L Pentastar V6 or Hemi fits, provided you're talking about RWD platforms. For those who want to do their own measuring, the standard output Hurricane measures 33.4 inches x 28.7 inches x 32.7 inches. The high-output checks in at 33.9" x 29.0" x 33.4"."

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/03/25/stellantis-hurricane-i6-hemi-replacement/

Just need a crate engine kit then LOL.

The SO engine would be a dramatic improvement...

 

[Jmos4]

Hi,

If the new 6 is 2 cylinders longer than the 2.0 then it's 726 (484/4×6)

So longer than a V8 Hemi

Regards,
Jim

 

[jeepingib]

I was talking to one of the Jeep Jamboree trail guides tonight in prep for this weekend's Rubicon Trail run. He's been talking to Jeep engineers about the Hurricane and says that it just won't fit. It needs about two more inches, so we won't see it until the Wrangler iteration after the JL.

I fully expected this. Sucks, but it is what it is. When AMC put the 258 in the CJ they had to lengthen the nose then too. I6 is just a lot of length for an engine package.

 

[Dusty Dude]

No— they are streamlining mfg, not expanding it, Just to promote another engine with similar performance numbers to existing ones ,

My thought was for the streamlining. A base I-6(non-turbo), an S.O., and an H.O. instead of an I4, V6, and V8.

 

[AFD]

Just need a crate engine kit then LOL.

The SO engine would be a dramatic improvement...

"We pressed Jeep on whether it plans to offer this as a crate engine, but we didn't receive a straight "yes" or "no."

https://www.motortrend.com/features/jeep-ram-dodge-hurricane-inline-six-engine-deep-dive/


If AMW can massage a giant 7.0L supercharged Hellephant into the JL, then Jeep can certainly figure out how to fit a 3.0L inline 6-cylinder with some creative thinking, right?

If the new 6 is 2 cylinders longer than the 2.0 then it's 726 (484/4×6)

So longer than a V8 Hemi

Seems to match up with the 728mm for the S.O. and 737mm for the H.O. Longer than a v8 Hemi, but prohibitively so for the JL? That's about 4 3/4" longer.

 

[Heimkehr]

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Relative to the Wrangler's mission brief, I wonder how, or if, Stellantis will solve the issue of the low-slung alternator.

I6 is just a lot of length for an engine package.

Not at all. The well-regarded 4.0L I6 fit in the comparatively compact YJ with room to spare. ?

As the preceding photo in the quoted post makes plain, what we're looking at with the new 3.0L Hurricane six is an engine that is encumbered with a plethora of pipes, hoses, wires and hard parts that were at one time almost unimaginable, but are now almost de rigueur due to market expectations.

 

[jeepingib]

Relative to the Wrangler's mission brief, I wonder how, or if, Stellantis will solve the issue of the low-slung alternator.



Not at all. The well-regarded 4.0L I6 fit in the comparatively compact YJ with room to spare. ?

As the preceding photo in the quoted post makes plain, what we're looking at with the new 3.0L Hurricane six is an engine that is encumbered with a plethora of pipes, hoses, wires and hard parts that were at one time almost unimaginable, but are now almost de rigueur due to market expectations.

Compare apples to apples. Look at how long the front of the CJ/YJ/TJ is compared to the JK/JL.

That front is roughly 2/5ths of the length of the YJ

 

[2nd 392]

My thought was for the streamlining. A base I-6(non-turbo), an S.O., and an H.O. instead of an I4, V6, and V8.

A NA I-6 would require higher compression pistons, different cam, intake and exhaust manifolds - system, TB, and maybe injectors and emissions equipment , + tune. The result would be comparable performance to the T-4. With limited production for 1 engine option on likely just Wrangler and Glad. This Would complicate production, not streamline it. Sorry—

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