Thank you, Jeep!

[hoch]

Just got done changing the oil in my wife’s Toyota van. Get the jack out. Chock the wheels. Remove several annoying 8mm bolts for the splash guard. Drain. Then use some proprietary oil filter removal tool. Put in 6.4 qts of oil. That’s a 5qt jug then 28% of another 5qt jug. So lots of putting a little in. Checking the dip stick. Repeat.
Balance the useless splash guard while trying to bolt it back into place.

Jeep = 13mm socket for oil plug. 24mm for filter. Dump a 5 qt jug in. Done. I swear it’s a 7 minute job, half of which is waiting for the oil to drain.

Thank you, Jeep!!

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[Xenolith]

Changing the oil in my Jeep is easy. With the ground clearance, no need for jacks, ramps.

 

[Heimkehr]

One of our Hondas has a splash guard covering the front underside of the vehicle; specifically, the transverse engine & transmission assembly.

While I appreciate the positive effect the shield has on fuel mileage (due to clean airflow) and keeping the underside bits relatively clean, removal & refitting it during each oil change is an annoyance. It uses two separate fastener designs, all of which are a bit dodgy to align when buttoning everything back up.

Said Honda is the first and to date only vehicle we've owned with an aluminum diaper, as I've come to refer to it. A mild inconvenience, but that's it, really.

Yes, working on the underside of the Jeep is a doddle in comparison. No ramps, jacks or other odds & sods to contend with.

 

[NWJeepr]

I recommend marking one of these at 6.4 quarts. Then, dump the oil in from new and partial jugs until you hit the line, then fill the Toyota.

 

[azjl#3]

One of our Hondas has a splash guard covering the front underside of the vehicle; specifically, the transverse engine & transmission assembly.

While I appreciate the positive effect the shield has on fuel mileage (due to clean airflow) and keeping the underside bits relatively clean, removal & refitting it during each oil change is an annoyance. It uses two separate fastener designs, all of which are a bit dodgy to align when buttoning everything back up.

Said Honda is the first and to date only vehicle we've owned with an aluminum diaper, as I've come to refer to it. A mild inconvenience, but that's it, really.

Yes, working on the underside of the Jeep is a doddle in comparison. No ramps, jacks or other odds & sods to contend with.

can you say 3 inch hole saw?

 

[azjl#3]

One of our Hondas has a splash guard covering the front underside of the vehicle; specifically, the transverse engine & transmission assembly.

While I appreciate the positive effect the shield has on fuel mileage (due to clean airflow) and keeping the underside bits relatively clean, removal & refitting it during each oil change is an annoyance. It uses two separate fastener designs, all of which are a bit dodgy to align when buttoning everything back up.

Said Honda is the first and to date only vehicle we've owned with an aluminum diaper, as I've come to refer to it. A mild inconvenience, but that's it, really.

Yes, working on the underside of the Jeep is a doddle in comparison. No ramps, jacks or other odds & sods to contend with.

BMW/Merceds been doing this since 70's. Makes it look like it has no oil leaks. Looks.

 

[Heimkehr]

can you say 3 inch hole saw?

I'd still need access to the oil filter.

 

[longfiredragon]

Just got done changing the oil in my wife’s Toyota van. Get the jack out. Chock the wheels. Remove several annoying 8mm bolts for the splash guard. Drain. Then use some proprietary oil filter removal tool. Put in 6.4 qts of oil. That’s a 5qt jug then 28% of another 5qt jug. So lots of putting a little in. Checking the dip stick. Repeat.
Balance the useless splash guard while trying to bolt it back into place.

Jeep = 13mm socket for oil plug. 24mm for filter. Dump a 5 qt jug in. Done. I swear it’s a 7 minute job, half of which is waiting for the oil to drain.

Thank you, Jeep!!

Yep, I swore off working on any Japanese cars years ago.

Then just a little while back I did some relatives a favor though and changed their oil and filter in their Camry. There's a special tool that unscrews a plastic housing with an internal oil filter, but there is a steel lock nut you have to remove first.

I figured it out but the real sucky part is the special tool fits over the lock nut, so one could try and remove the plastic cover without removing the lock nut. You could damage or break the plastic housing. Especially if a person used a air or electric gun to remove the filter housing/cover.

The other part is an internal filter "What really, what a pain in the ass" on like a later 2000 Camry. I forget what year it was exactly. I own a 1984 motorcycle and it has an internal filter, but it's an 84! What a mess internal filters are.

I am not saying the Japanese build junk, or that there's anything wrong with them, but I have only owned one Japanese made car in my life and it was a good vehicle.

But when it comes to working on them, No Thanks.

 

[jbcrane]

...I swear it’s a 7 minute job, half of which is waiting for the oil to drain.

I know... you get done and think, "that was too easy... did I miss something?" - double check everything, stand back and wait for drips that never come... the hardest part for me is finding a place to take the 5-quart jug of old oil. Often times my regular places have a sign on the door saying "sorry, we're not taking oil today."

 

[JLeco2022]

i fill up 5 gallon gas cans with oil before i turn them in, someone always has room for it

 

[jeff spahn]

I know... you get done and think, "that was too easy... did I miss something?" - double check everything, stand back and wait for drips that never come... the hardest part for me is finding a place to take the 5-quart jug of old oil. Often times my regular places have a sign on the door saying "sorry, we're not taking oil today."

You could always do like my boy scout manual says: “dig a hole in the earth, pour in the old oil and cover with dirt”. I mean prolly not the most ecological thing but hey, boys scouts said to do it!

 

[hoch]

You could always do like my boy scout manual says: “dig a hole in the earth, pour in the old oil and cover with dirt”. I mean prolly not the most ecological thing but hey, boys scouts said to do it!

Science in the 60’s ??

 

[Robertyoke]

You could always do like my boy scout manual says: “dig a hole in the earth, pour in the old oil and cover with dirt”. I mean prolly not the most ecological thing but hey, boys scouts said to do it!

Oh I've been doing it wrong all these years. I thought dumping it on the neighbors rose bushes was the way to go. Jk.

 

[Obscurity]

One of our Hondas has a splash guard covering the front underside of the vehicle; specifically, the transverse engine & transmission assembly.

While I appreciate the positive effect the shield has on fuel mileage (due to clean airflow) and keeping the underside bits relatively clean, removal & refitting it during each oil change is an annoyance. It uses two separate fastener designs, all of which are a bit dodgy to align when buttoning everything back up.

Said Honda is the first and to date only vehicle we've owned with an aluminum diaper, as I've come to refer to it. A mild inconvenience, but that's it, really.

Yes, working on the underside of the Jeep is a doddle in comparison. No ramps, jacks or other odds & sods to contend with.

I had an 89 Civic that had its oil filter mounted horizontally on the back of the engine and only accessible from the bottom and with your left hand. Every time you changed the oil your arm got oil on it and if it was a really good day you might get some on your face as well.

 

[Bayrat]

Just got done changing the oil in my wife’s Toyota van. Get the jack out. Chock the wheels. Remove several annoying 8mm bolts for the splash guard. Drain. Then use some proprietary oil filter removal tool. Put in 6.4 qts of oil. That’s a 5qt jug then 28% of another 5qt jug. So lots of putting a little in. Checking the dip stick. Repeat.
Balance the useless splash guard while trying to bolt it back into place.

Jeep = 13mm socket for oil plug. 24mm for filter. Dump a 5 qt jug in. Done. I swear it’s a 7 minute job, half of which is waiting for the oil to drain.

Thank you, Jeep!!

Bride has had a few Subaru Outbacks in the past for her commuting, and the last couple were a real pain to work on, as you stated. I insisted she get rid of the thing after a very slight hit to the rear quarter damaged the vehicle all the way into the spare tire well. That was a 2013 wagon, good riddance. She's been in Grand Cherokees ever since.

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