Shock suggestions

[mbailie]

I've got a '24 392 and am looking for some shock suggestions.

I did the Clayton 392 performance springs, have a full set of metalcloak control arms and front upper busings on the way.

My jeep has the beadlock capable rims and the 315/70r17s.

My plan is to start doing some mild wheeling. My first objective was protection, then looking to provide some more articulation, but not lift the jeep too much. gotta keep the wife happy. For awareness, I have the RSE steps and skids.

I would add track bars and tierod/track bar to the mix if I could but I fear with the lift requirements that are listed for them they'd hit stuff, but I am certainly open to suggestions. (My previous JT had a full suspension/steering linkage replacement, so It's familiar territory.)

I'm looking for shock recommendations to maximize droop, but also trying to understand what else would need to be replaced in doing so, as in driveshafts etc. I had flacon 3.3's in the past. Obviously I'd need to bumpstop appropriately, looking for suggestions for a starting point, or 'safe' points.

I looked at the shock length spreadsheet and it made my head spin. I'd be open to understanding how it would apply to my build.

Thanks in advance for any help!

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[LazyJL]

It's my understanding that front shocks that extend past 28" require a driveshaft replacement.
Reservoir shocks can provide more overall travel.
I don't think replacing the track bars and tie rod would interfere with anything at stock height.

If you are going with MC control arms, what about the springs and other associated parts needed with doing a lift? MC's suspension packages include almost everything needed, with a choice of various shocks, take a look at their recommendations.

 

[GaryToo]

Bilstein 8100 DSA seems to be worth a good look. I have 3 and waiting on the 4th one to come from Northridge

 

[TrustWonUSA]

I have got a Rubicon X and have been researching and planning. My current train of thought is JKS ACOS with the hydro bump stop. The up travel is terrible on these X Jeeps. The ACOS will add minimum 1” and is adjustable out to 3” I believe. This will solve the up travel situation. The OEM 1.5” lift in my opinion is at an odd size for finding shocks. I have been looking at the DCA 8100 and the Fox’s.
I will almost definitely add a track bar, I already did the Mopar LCA’s for the 2” lift, but may need adjustable LCA’s, we will see.

 

[akjohn62]

I mounted a set of Rancho 7000. Tightens up the suspension. Rubicon X.

 

[yokramer]

It's my understanding that front shocks that extend past 28" require a driveshaft replacement.
Reservoir shocks can provide more overall travel.
I don't think replacing the track bars and tie rod would interfere with anything at stock height.

If you are going with MC control arms, what about the springs and other associated parts needed with doing a lift? MC's suspension packages include almost everything needed, with a choice of various shocks, take a look at their recommendations.

Reservoirs do not correlate to shock travel just fluid volume that helps with heat and shock fade.

 

[TrustWonUSA]

Reservoirs do not correlate to shock travel just fluid volume that helps with heat and shock fade.

Most RR shocks have more travel because there is more space in the shock body to work with

 

[TrustWonUSA]

I mounted a set of Rancho 7000. Tightens up the suspension. Rubicon X.

What do you think about the ride compared to stock/others?

 

[yokramer]

Most RR shocks have more travel because there is more space in the shock body to work with

Thats correlation not causation. You can have just as much travel in a solid body shock as you can a reservoir shock. Here is an 18" travel smooth body shock with no resivoir, and a 20" travel coil over without reservoir. The reason you tend to see the super long travel shocks with reservoirs is because for the money you are spending you might as well have the extra fluid capacity.

 

[shagles]

The travel gained from a RR shock is marginal, and only bump travel. Like a bilstein 5100 gets 0.69" of additional bump travel. Likely, that's not even useable once you've got appropriate bump stops anyway. The main benefit really is oil capacity/heat management. Oh and looking super badass!

 

[c20040215]

Thats correlation not causation. You can have just as much travel in a solid body shock as you can a reservoir shock. Here is an 18" travel smooth body shock with no resivoir, and a 20" travel coil over without reservoir. The reason you tend to see the super long travel shocks with reservoirs is because for the money you are spending you might as well have the extra fluid capacity.

Given the same main shock body length, the one with remote reservoir has the internal floating piston and gas chamber in the reservoir, which allows more travel compared to non reservoir shock. It is true you can make a long travel non reservoir shock but the shock body will also need to be longer for the internal piston and gas chamber, which increases the compressed length.

 

[TrustWonUSA]

Thats correlation not causation. You can have just as much travel in a solid body shock as you can a reservoir shock. Here is an 18" travel smooth body shock with no resivoir, and a 20" travel coil over without reservoir. The reason you tend to see the super long travel shocks with reservoirs is because for the money you are spending you might as well have the extra fluid capacity.

Interesting find on the FOA shocks, never heard of them. Do you use them and what are your thoughts.

 

[ASSFROW]

What do you think about the ride compared to stock/others?

I ran them on my JK and really liked them. The downfall is the lack of travel compared to other aftermarket options.

 

[yokramer]

Given the same main shock body length, the one with remote reservoir has the internal floating piston and gas chamber in the reservoir, which allows more travel compared to non reservoir shock. It is true you can make a long travel non reservoir shock but the shock body will also need to be longer for the internal piston and gas chamber, which increases the compressed length.

Which again the reservoir is irrelevant to shock travel. What you get from the reservoir is a larger volume of fluid which gives you a better fade mitigation. Can you find more long travel reservoir shocks? Yes. Can you package it a little bit smaller in the shock body? Again, yes. Do you NEED reservoir shocks to get more travel? No, not even a little bit. Unless youre really beating the hell out of your suspension on whoops, washboards or cosplaying a king of the hammers truck you probably dont even need remote reservoir shocks to begin with.

Interesting find on the FOA shocks, never heard of them. Do you use them and what are your thoughts.

Never used them just the first quick one I found on google when searching 20" travel shocks lol.

 

[c20040215]

Which again the reservoir is irrelevant to shock travel. What you get from the reservoir is a larger volume of fluid which gives you a better fade mitigation. Can you find more long travel reservoir shocks? Yes. Can you package it a little bit smaller in the shock body? Again, yes. Do you NEED reservoir shocks to get more travel? No, not even a little bit. Unless youre really beating the hell out of your suspension on whoops, washboards or cosplaying a king of the hammers truck you probably dont even need remote reservoir shocks to begin with.

No, you don't. And you are right, you don't need reservoir shocks to get a, say 12" travel. Without any context, the statement is true.

However, the difference here in the jeep for most 2.5 - 3.5 lift scenario is that, you can get more travel out of a remote reservoir without the constrain of compressed length and better packaging.

Two shocks, the same eyelet to eyelet length before compression, remote reservoir shock will have shorter eyelet to eyelet fully compressed, which means you get more travel. Can you get the same travel on the non reservoir shock by increase the overall eyelet to eyelet length. Yes. That is more droop, and higher ride height, and you also need more bumpstops. Depends on the set up, it may or may not work.

Without context, remote reservoir shocks give you more travel is not a correct statement. In a very common Jeep that has 2.5" lift, and 37s. Yes. You will get more travel going with remote resi shocks.

As for the "need". Nothing on this forum is need. Its can, or can not. Want or don't want. So I am not commenting on it.

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