Rolling coal

[JLTruman]

maybe he is the "football star" of their town, that's why he's being protected, but it's still wrong what he did and should be punished.

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[GATORB8]

Surprised this doesn't happen more often nowadays. We did some stupid shit in highschool and didn't have thousands of youtube and tictoc video's to inspire us.

 

[driventoadventure]

Nah, your statement is indeed dumb. There’s plenty of crimes that Texas is tough on. Just not this one or certain ones like these. For some reason…

Try smoking a joint. Or talking trash to police officers or videoing them executing their duties while in public. Or terminating a pregnancy after 6 weeks.

I was actually trying not to mention those other issues because I was trying to just make a joke without getting too political.

 

[Bulletbill]

Hefty fine for tampering with the emissions system, and assault at the very least. Honestly, I’m not sure I get people anymore.

Any guesses as to where he learned this behavior?

 

[BDinTX]

Any guesses as to where he learned this behavior?

I think it's human nature to be competitive and one upping the next person is the result of that behavior. The proliferation of dumb stunts on social media and TV just increases what kids are exposed to and sets the bar pretty high (or low) for what they feel compelled to beat.

Compounding the problem is that kids these days have no responsibilities and far too many have everything just handed to them. In school they are no longer accountable for their poor behavior or actions and many of them just go home to play video games. It's not like it was in the past where kids were working on the farm, helping support their families, etc. So they don't get exposed to situations that help them to learn how to behave like an adult.

Our culture needs to return to the place where kids got their ass spanked when they misbehaved and they were expected to work menial jobs in their teens. Until then they'll continue to grow up to be entitled morons that smash pedestrians with the big truck their daddy handed them.

 

[Zandcwhite]

Look at that accident scene and tell me how he wasn't led away in cuffs. Hell 16 year-olds get arrested and led away in cuffs for shoplifting in my area. This kids biggest problem is power washing the brains off daddy's truck. [okay maybe there weren't brains - but close]

And...what do "college aspirations" have to do with anything?

I always thought that Texas was tough on crime.

Accidents aren't crimes? Without intent, he accidentally hit people. What crime should he have been arrested for?

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Another motorist in Waller county was sentenced to life in prison without possibly of parole earlier this year for hitting several cyclists, killing 2 of them. Different person. Different circumstances.

But if you’re thinking of riding a bicycle along the road in Waller county, I’d suggest considering a different location.

 

[MRH512]

Accidents aren't crimes? Without intent, he accidentally hit people. What crime should he have been arrested for?

Assault.

As the District Attorney explains:
"Rolling coal when a person is in the vicinity and when the individual rolling coal intentionally or knowingly causes that excess exhaust to contact that bystander is AT A MINIMUM an assault. They are causing their vehicle to “spit” on a living, breathing, human being that is worthy of dignity and not having his or her person violated. That simple assault is easily elevated to a jail eligible offense if bodily injury occurs, which can be caused by entry of toxic particles into mouth, nose and eyes. Waller County law enforcement agencies all across the county are being reminded today of the availability of these and other charges which can be brought against individuals acting in such a criminal manner."

The "accident" here is a direct result of a crime (x6).

 

[jlang]

Look at that accident scene and tell me how he wasn't led away in cuffs. Hell 16 year-olds get arrested and led away in cuffs for shoplifting in my area. This kids biggest problem is power washing the brains off daddy's truck. [okay maybe there weren't brains - but close]

And...what do "college aspirations" have to do with anything?

I always thought that Texas was tough on crime.

A lot of things in Texas are overblown, including the stance on crime.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Accidents aren't crimes? Without intent, he accidentally hit people. What crime should he have been arrested for?

If i intentionally fire a gun in your direction to frighten and intimidate you and your family, but have no actual intent to actually strike or harm you; but then I do accidentally shoot you in the face and maim you because I’m a horrible shot, is a crime committed because my intent in shooting toward you wasn’t to actually hurt you? Should I be arrested?

 

[BDinTX]

copied from the interwebz:

An accident is commonly defined as “an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.” While negligence is “a failure to exercise the care toward others which a reasonable or prudent person would do in the circumstances, or taking action which such a reasonable person would not.

There are many ways that a person could be deemed at fault due to negligence. Some of these include:
Speed
Failure to signal
Failure to maintain distance
Failure to pay attention
Failure to yield
Vehicle defect
Illegal turns

 

[Zandcwhite]

If i intentionally fire a gun in your direction to frighten and intimidate you and your family, but have no actual intent to actually strike or harm you; but then I do accidentally shoot you in the face and maim you because I’m a horrible shot, is a crime committed because my intent in shooting toward you wasn’t to actually hurt you? Should I be arrested?

Firing a gun into a crowd vs driving down the street and unintentionally hitting people? I see the analogy. If it was your 16 year old kid, would you want his future ruined with felony charges? If a kid being a dumb ass kid accidentally hit me while I was riding in the road, I wouldn't want him charged with felonies. The idea that rolling coal is an assault is just fucking pathetic. What's next, an errant squirt gun shot hitting someone in the park is attempted murder?

 

[MRH512]

Firing a gun into a crowd vs driving down the street and unintentionally hitting people?

I believe you're over simplifying this when you say "driving down the street and unintentionally hitting people." It seems evident that he didn't intend to strike the cyclist. However, he did intend to harass and assault them (with the toxic fumes) by 'rolling coal' ".

A witness is on record saying the driver made multiple passes by the cyclists in order to douse them with the fumes. His negligence while engaging in this harassment lead to him striking 6 cyclists, thus committing 6 acts of vehicular assault.

The fact that he wasn't arrested for committing 6 acts of vehicular assault is appalling. At a minimum, he should have been arrested and held until such time as evidence was reviewed, charges decided upon, and a court date set where he is afforded an opportunity defend his actions and await a judge's or jury's verdict.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Firing a gun into a crowd vs driving down the street and unintentionally hitting people? I see the analogy. If it was your 16 year old kid, would you want his future ruined with felony charges? If a kid being a dumb ass kid accidentally hit me while I was riding in the road, I wouldn't want him charged with felonies. The idea that rolling coal is an assault is just fucking pathetic. What's next, an errant squirt gun shot hitting someone in the park is attempted murder?

You didn’t answer the question I posed based on your assertion that consequences without intent is an “accident” and shouldn’t be charged. You’re cool with me shooting you or yours and not being charged because I claim I didn’t mean to?

I don’t have children so I can’t credibly say what I’d do in this situation. If I did a piss poor job of raising and training my 16 year old to think that what this moron did was OK, shame on me as a crappy parent. If I protect him from the consequences of his poor choices then I’ve created another Ethan Couch. Double shame on me. Maybe his parents coulda/shoulda raised him with more sense than to wield a huge powerful vehicle as a weapon irresponsibly in an effort to act like a dick to other people? Ya think?

I didn’t say anything about shooting into a crowd. I said shooting toward you to frighten and intimidate you without meaning to actually shoot you. That’s a crime in and of itself. If I do shoot you, that’s another crime (crimes) whether I meant to hurt you or not.

It’s pretty forgiving of you to not hold a grudge against a kid who ruined your life and took away your health and ability to make a living. I probably am not as forgiving of being the victim of some jackass’s poor judgment and entitlement. Kudos to you sir, I aspire to be so noble.

Your squirt gun example is silly. It is not in any way able to injure or kill anyone. It’s a nuisance at best. A ticket or a warning. A real gun, or a Ford Superduty, are actual dangerous weapons in the hands of irresponsible people. So yes, I think it’s fine to charge someone with a crime for seriously hurting others by intentionally handling them recklessly or maliciously.

 

[631_Islander]

Look at that accident scene and tell me how he wasn't led away in cuffs. Hell 16 year-olds get arrested and led away in cuffs for shoplifting in my area. This kids biggest problem is power washing the brains off daddy's truck. [okay maybe there weren't brains - but close]

And...what do "college aspirations" have to do with anything?

I always thought that Texas was tough on crime.

What do you call a thousand dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

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