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Hello all,

For us here in SoCal, it is becoming harder to find good Diesel #2. Therefore, after reading lots about Renewable Diesel (NOT B20 or BIODIESEL), contacting Jeep Cares, which didn’t really help, I did try the 76 Renewable here in SoCal.

Jeep Cares didn’t really help as they just repeated what the manual said, and did not want to get into a conversation regarding this. I tried one tank and so far I actually liked the results. The engine seems to runs better and smoother. I will try a second tank and report back, but so far so good. Has anyone out there had the same experience? Anyone has long term intel on this fuel? Personally I think this could be an option for the long run on Diesels.

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J**pcares has been universally unhelpful on this topic.

i've run a fair bit of Renewable (it's becoming hard to avoid). i do see that it seems to cause the DPF to load up slower, but it also seems to provide slightly lower fuel economy in my use.
YMMV. ;)
 
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Thank you Zouch! For me it is a bit early to say regarding the DPF or the fuel economy since I did a bit of highway miles mostly on this tank and couldn’t really compare to the same driving conditions. Will report further on it.

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I burn 76 R99 Renewable diesel and I add Hotshots LX4 or Optilube XL Xtreme. My research found this: "Unlike biodiesel, renewable diesel closely mimics the chemical structure and performance characteristics of regular diesel, but without the impurities and high emissions. Because of this, it can be used as a full drop-in replacement for regular diesel without any engine modifications. It also burns cleaner than biodiesel and won’t cause issues that are common with biodiesel, including engine clogging, fuel filter plugging, and storage tank corrosion. " https://hartfueling.com/the-difference-between-renewable-diesel-biodiesel-regular-diesel/

Renewable diesel can be transported in the same pipe systems and tanker trucks used for #2 diesel. Biodiesel requires dedicated pipes and trucks.

My EcoDiesel runs great!
 
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Thank you Parker. Great article and describes everything that I have read as well. To me, this is the way to go and hopefully more OEMs could produce diesel cars and trucks that could use R99. Needless to say, I am not a fan of EVs and definitely want to vomit when I see a Cybertrash on the road…..
 

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good bit of classic anti-BioD propaganda and half-truths there; nothing new.

i’m not going to get into it except to say: keep doing your research.


I burn 76 R99 Renewable diesel and I add Hotshots LX4 or Optilube XL Xtreme. My research found this: "Unlike biodiesel, renewable diesel closely mimics the chemical structure and performance characteristics of regular diesel, but without the impurities and high emissions. Because of this, it can be used as a full drop-in replacement for regular diesel without any engine modifications. It also burns cleaner than biodiesel and won’t cause issues that are common with biodiesel, including engine clogging, fuel filter plugging, and storage tank corrosion. " https://hartfueling.com/the-difference-between-renewable-diesel-biodiesel-regular-diesel/

Renewable diesel can be transported in the same pipe systems and tanker trucks used for #2 diesel. Biodiesel requires dedicated pipes and trucks.

My EcoDiesel runs great!
 

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RD is a true 100% drop-in fuel; more than 50% of all diesel sold in CA is RD. RD refineries are converted traditional petroleum refineries so the process is very similar.

(My wife & I are in the fuels industry)
 
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I also have seen R99 sold on pumps that are labeled Diesel #2. The more I read, the more I see Renewable becoming the normal here in California. I just wish we could have some guidance from Jeep as well. If this fuel is better like they say, and a somewhat pleasing option to CARB, this could be the answer as the nonEV alternative for OEMs.
 

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i certainly hope they get the pump labeling straightened out soon; this is one of the *less* confusing sets of labels i've seen. (i'm not going to get into the question of whether or not we can believe it.)

too many pumps are labelled in manner that leaves it unclear as to what exactly is being pumped, even seeing conflicting statements on a single sticker.

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I couldn’t agree more Zouch. I got the habit now to “scope” a station before I get to use them. I try find out when they normally get their load and what they selling there. Most stations are ok in giving you the info and I have two good ones near me. I also ask other users about their experience in the respective station. I feel we can never do enough research for good fuel these days….
 

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curious; what are the stations near you that you use?

(i still get into that area on occasion.)


I couldn’t agree more Zouch. I got the habit now to “scope” a station before I get to use them. I try find out when they normally get their load and what they selling there. Most stations are ok in giving you the info and I have two good ones near me. I also ask other users about their experience in the respective station. I feel we can never do enough research for good fuel these days….
 
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I live in Mission Viejo. For the renewable 76, I have been using the 76 on I5 South on La Paz exit. The station is well taken care and the pumps are in great shape. For regular Diesel, I have been using a Shell on the corner of Oso Parkway and Antonio. This Shell, I have been told that it is getting R99 but they still need to change the labeling The Shell on El Toro exit going Northbound on I5 has lots of traffic and therefore fresh fuel, but the station is a bit older and I feel it is not well taken care, so I try to avoid but never had issues there. The other two I like but don’t go there often unless I am passing by are the Shell in Irvine. This Shell is right next door to the Bass Pro Shops. Have had good experience there. Further north, on I5 and Sand Canyon exit (southbound side), there is a 76 there and I really like this location. Lots of traffic there from the RV crowd and trucks. Good and clean station.
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