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There's a handful of people here that swear it's not noticeable.

Some of them also seem to think that getting less from more is equivalent to getting more from less. Yeah, it's challenging getting through to people like that, but we try.

Eh or some people don’t lose sleep over it. Or others don’t have anything better to do with their time.

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[autotragic]

Eh or some people don’t lose sleep over it. Or others don’t have anything better to do with their time.

Every engine loses power with altitude, just with forced induction it's less loss. I don't care if it's a Pentastar 3.6 , 2.0 turbo or a Pratt & Whitney J58!

For HAATS training our OH-58s had to circle the airfield for 10+ minutes to get enough altitude to get over the foothills/small mountains near Ft. Carson which was the whole point of us being there working up for an Afghanistan deployment because our pilots weren't familiar with operations at those altitudes. The Apaches and Blackhawks had it only marginally better. Hence why the Chinook was the Army's workhorse over there, it was the only one with the power and lift to make those altitudes without a lot of stress.

What was funny was when our pathfinder detachment realized that the multi-mile run they had planned for the very first morning in CO didn't even make it a full mile before they were so winded they practically fell to the ground panting and heaving. Those guys barely made it back to the barracks without needing trucks to come get them.

Altitude and it's effects on air density affects everything that breaths air no matter what.

 

[Riverjeep]

Every engine loses power with altitude, just with forced induction it's less loss. I don't care if it's a Pentastar 3.6 , 2.0 turbo or a Pratt & Whitney J58!

For HAATS training our OH-58s had to circle the airfield for 10+ minutes to get enough altitude to get over the foothills/small mountains near Ft. Carson which was the whole point of us being there working up for an Afghanistan deployment because our pilots weren't familiar with operations at those altitudes. The Apaches and Blackhawks had it only marginally better. Hence why the Chinook was the Army's workhorse over there, it was the only one with the power and lift to make those altitudes without a lot of stress.

What was funny was when our pathfinder detachment realized that the multi-mile run they had planned for the very first morning in CO didn't even make it a full mile before they were so winded they practically fell to the ground panting and heaving. Those guys barely made it back to the barracks without needing trucks to come get them.

Altitude and it's effects on air density affects everything that breaths air no matter what.

Yep, agree 100% but I will add a piston engine airplane with a turbo has a much higher service ceiling due to less power loss. A Turbo Cessna T206H has a service ceiling of 27,000 feet while it's sibling without turbo the Cessna 206H only has a service ceiling of 15,700 feet.

 

[twistyfun48]

Honestly I believe Jeep will bring back the Auto V-6 and more colors. I think they kept everything boring so people would just go out and buy a 2024 just to clear some lots. I mean it works, why go through all the hassle of making a order when you can just go to the lot and pick one up with the same color and maybe grab a V-6 auto while we're at it, aaaaannnnd buy it for a little cheaper.

I think you’re right. What’s the rule of thumb on colors? Do they add extra colors that were originally not on the list? I’d prefer a new color option but would accept the return of Earl Grey (RIP). Would Anvil get cancelled mid cycle?

 

[TheRaven]

There's a handful of people here that swear it's not noticeable.

Some of them also seem to think that getting less from more is equivalent to getting more from less. Yeah, it's challenging getting through to people like that, but we try.

Eh or some people don’t lose sleep over it. Or others don’t have anything better to do with their time.

 

[yokramer]

Claims he doesnt care about getting the last word .... replies to a post from 17hrs ago ....


@Terrymo you may have been onto something

 

[TheRaven]

Claims he doesnt care about getting the last word .... replies to a post from 17hrs ago ....

 

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[TheRaven]

Yeah the guy we have to warn new members about says I have a problem. LOL.

 

[Remorseless]

Yeah the guy we have to warn new members about says I have a problem. LOL.

We? You got a fairy in your pocket or something?

 

[yokramer]

We? You got a fairy in your pocket or something?

Must be his little electric helper

 

[Remorseless]

Must be his little electric helper

Like a Battery Operated Buddy?

 

[yokramer]

Like a Battery Operated Buddy?

Saw how much his wife liked hers so he had to get one in his Jeep

 

[TheRaven]

We? You got a fairy in your pocket or something?

Funny thing - that "we" doesn't even refer to ME, specifically. It refers to other members of a group you and I are part of. I shouldn't have to explain this to you...but here we are.

 

[Remorseless]

Saw how much his wife liked hers so he had to get one in his Jeep

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