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Class action lawsuits on stuff like this are funny to me.

You end up with marketing syndicate attorney offices blasting everyone and their mother to opt-in to a class action lawsuit. They then offload the cases to local affiliates in class states. The local affiliates file lots of motions and drag things out for months/years.

Eventually, possibly, the manufacturer agrees to some no-fault settlement, that leads to the original class members getting a fraction (generally less than 2-3% of the original purchase price) - the attorneys will get 70% of the settlement, and whatever is left goes to "everyone and their mother" who was "harmed" by the manufacturer - in the form of a $50 or $100 payout and agreement to not sue the manufacturer now, or at any time in the future.

But hey, attorneys gotta eat!
 
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They are 100% bogus.
Thanks. I spoke with someone from there earlier today. Seemed to know what he was talking about in reference to jeeps and the recalls. But the details about an actual lawsuit were very vague. Kept asking what the expected/ideal outcome would be and couldn’t get a straight answer. Didn’t end up signing anything. But he wasn’t trying to get me to join a class action. It was for an individual suit. Doesn’t seem to make sense to pay someone a contingency percentage of an unknown number. $100? $1,000? $10,000? $50,000?
 

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Thanks. I spoke with someone from there earlier today. Seemed to know what he was talking about in reference to jeeps and the recalls. But the details about an actual lawsuit were very vague. Kept asking what the expected/ideal outcome would be and couldn’t get a straight answer. Didn’t end up signing anything. But he wasn’t trying to get me to join a class action. It was for an individual suit. Doesn’t seem to make sense to pay someone a contingency percentage of an unknown number. $100? $1,000? $10,000? $50,000?
You did not read the part that says you are responsible for the fees not collected in the lawsuit.
 

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I'm wondering what kind of angle they will be using.

I mean, if I'm going to be $40k in the hole when I trade mine in, would the fees be worth it?
 

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Thanks. I spoke with someone from there earlier today. Seemed to know what he was talking about in reference to jeeps and the recalls. But the details about an actual lawsuit were very vague. Kept asking what the expected/ideal outcome would be and couldn’t get a straight answer. Didn’t end up signing anything. But he wasn’t trying to get me to join a class action. It was for an individual suit. Doesn’t seem to make sense to pay someone a contingency percentage of an unknown number. $100? $1,000? $10,000? $50,000?
That's the rub, the contingency fees mean you don't pay any attorney's fees (though check the agreement, some do/some don't still charge expenses even if you lose) or you only pay a little if you only have a small recovery, but if you win and it's a big recovery you end up paying more attorney's fees than if you hired them on a hourly rate. In short, it's based on who is taking on the risk of a loss.

Sometimes joining a class action makes sense, other times it doesn't. You need to examine your situation and talk to more than one attorney/firm to try and figure out which works best for you.
 
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That's the rub, the contingency fees mean you don't pay any attorney's fees (though check the agreement, some do/some don't still charge expenses even if you lose) or you only pay a little if you only have a small recovery, but if you win and it's a big recovery you end up paying more attorney's fees than if you hired them on a hourly rate. In short, it's based on who is taking on the risk of a loss.

Sometimes joining a class action makes sense, other times it doesn't. You need to examine your situation and talk to more than one attorney/firm to try and figure out which works best for you.
Agreed. The class action doesn't do much for me right now. It's something that would probably take years to resolve. Both of our 4xe's are leased and under the miles. They'll be long gone by the time it's settled. An individual suit was more appealing to me. I didn't end up moving forward with this firm. But it would be nice to sit down with a local firm to see what they thought my options would be.
 

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Frankly a class action should be easy to win as this is the *third* recall for battery fires. If the first two didn't resolve the issue, why would we expect the third to be any different?

Will probably take years to hash out on the legal side. The EcoDiesel class action went pretty well for the owners, they mostly got extended warranties out of it. I'd suspect something similar, however Jeep has already extended the warranty on the battery parks to lifetime. Not sure there's anything else to offer.
 

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However Jeep has already extended the warranty on the battery parks to lifetime. Not sure there's anything else to offer.
I haven't seen this yet - can you share where you got this info? Is it possibly state specific?
 

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I haven't seen this yet - can you share where you got this info? Is it possibly state specific?
All JL 4XEs now have an unlimited mile and unlimited time on the battery packs. The Pacifica hybrids have an unlimited mile and unlimited time on both the battery packs and transmissions. At least here in the states.
 

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All JL 4XEs now have an unlimited mile and unlimited time on the battery packs. The Pacifica hybrids have an unlimited mile and unlimited time on both the battery packs and transmissions. At least here in the states.
That sounds like an extremely generous warranty offer, so I’m trying to understand the actual scope of what’s being stated.

My guess is that any “lifetime” coverage wouldn’t apply to all Wrangler HV battery packs, but only to batteries that were part of a specific recall or that experienced a qualifying DTC event.

It could also be something narrower—like a lifetime warranty on the particular separator or component that caused the 95B recall, rather than the entire high-voltage battery assembly.

If anyone has the exact Stellantis wording or a copy of the letter showing how broad the coverage is, I’d love to see it for clarification.
 

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That sounds like an extremely generous warranty offer, so I’m trying to understand the actual scope of what’s being stated.

My guess is that any “lifetime” coverage wouldn’t apply to all Wrangler HV battery packs, but only to batteries that were part of a specific recall or that experienced a qualifying DTC event.

It could also be something narrower—like a lifetime warranty on the particular separator or component that caused the 95B recall, rather than the entire high-voltage battery assembly.

If anyone has the exact Stellantis wording or a copy of the letter showing how broad the coverage is, I’d love to see it for clarification.
All JL 4XEs that have ever been built for the U.S. market and aren't restricted now have an unlimited mileage and time battery pack warranty. This is only for the battery pack, nothing else. This appears on the VIP report under warranty coverage. I do not know if those applies to freshly built or soon to be built vehicles, but it applies to all that were built at time of recall release.

The wording for restricted means vehicles that have been totaled by insurance companies, or otherwise black marked due to other reasons such as acknowledged warranty breaking modifications. I've only seen a handful come into the shop that are restricted.
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