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MyDaughters20JL

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More than likely, it's simply the fact that my previous vehicle was a 1 ton supercrew powerstroke 4x4, but I"m a little bit bummed regarding the ride of my '20 JLUR as far as stiffness of the ride. Yes, I'd like a little softer than my ford, but for god sakes, is it too much to ask for something a bit more firm?
current setup & mods are as follows:
Rough Country 2.5" spacer lift
teraflex shocks
Core4X4 adjustable front track bar
Synergy rear track bar relocation bracket
Synergy rear track bar frame brace
Raceline wheels with +35 offset
35" (315) BFG KO2's

I notices that SOME of the lift kits that are out actually raise the front end a bit more, I assume this is to remove the factory rake.
with a straight 2.5" spacer lift, I still have the rake & I have yet to install my ARB twin compressor (in engine compartment) OR my Badlands apex 12K winch.
I did go with aftermarket bumpers, but figure that with front (westin wj2 full width) and rear (body armor full width) the weights somewhat equalled each other & wouldn't change the rake for the most part...
considering I"ve yet to install the winch, would an investment in a heavier set of springs for the front (thinking diesel 4 door with hard top and towing package) remove most of the rake and stiffen things up a bit once I get my wi9nch on (I already purchased the Core4X4 adjustable front LCA's simply because, although not nearly as bad as BEFORE the steering box replacement, there is a bit more looseness in the steering "post lift", and that's WITH the longer MOPAR LCA's)?
all thoughts are welcome, even if you think I"ve overdone some things & underdone others
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Take what i say with a grain of salt. I'll make a honest attempt.

If you want firmer it's possible. But you have to start somewhere. You can't budget build anything and get the results you want. You will never be 100% happy. Everything works together but some things work against one another. For starters, get adjustable control arms. It doesn't matter who you buy from. No matter what company or joint type you prefer. Then decide what amount of lift and tires you want. Decide how much lift you need to comfortably make those tires fit. Remember, some of the factory springs are the SOFTEST springs made for the jeep. At least I'm pretty sure.

Shocks. You can ask 100 people and get 0 right answers. It's all in what you want. Do you want a basic monotube. Do you want an internal floating piston shock from fox. Do you want rancho. Do you want king. Or do you want something budget friendly. Find which spring you want to run and pair it with a shock. Do your research. Adjustable shocks give you compression adjustments, but not rebound adjustments. You'll need a custom valved shock or a triple bypass shock for that. With that being said.... You can opt for custom valving on most reservoir shocks. Every shock out of the box isn't going to work well with every spring. You have to research what works. It's an ongoing process. You also have to pick a shock length with what intentions you use the vehicle for. Do you want as much up travel as possible or do you you need down travel? For instance if you want the best on road ride. You want up travel and the ability to use the up travel. But that doesn't mean the shock you pick will pair well with the springs you have or give you the ride you desire. Remember the further up the shock shaft is into the body of the shock the stiffer it becomes. That doesn't mean the guy with 4" of up travel doesn't have a better ride than you. He's just spent countless hours figuring out what works for him and spent loads of money making it all work together. Everything and i mean everything about the suspension is a strategy. You have to find what works for YOU.

Beef every steering component you can. I would go with yeti, but plenty of others work very well. There are others that can compete as well. Get your front track bar brace and sector shaft brace. Get you a decent steering stabilizer. I see you have the rear track bar brace. I just installed mine and i can attest, it does take the wiggle out of the rear. Makes it feel more planted. No more side to side movement.

Also, firm can be taken in many contexts. Soft for some is actually firm for another and vice versa. You don't always want firm, jarring and out of control. You want something that dsmpens and has good control. You want to take a bump and not feel it as harsh. You don't want the whole jeep shaking because one tire hit a small pothole. I definitely thought i wanted a softer ride when in turn i wanted a firmer ride with better dampening. You also have to remember when you lift the jeep. You have to lengthen sway bars. Your track bars may not be the correct length. Everything plays a role and if it's not dialed in, you get a very sloppy, wobbly ride.

Pay attention to your ride. Pay attention to body roll. Pay attention to wiggle of the axles when you hit a bump. You could be hitting bump stop or you could be bottoming out the shocks you have. You could have worn out track bar joints. You could have anything out of whack. Do you have the coil correction pads for the axles. Your springs may be bowing. Every single part plays a role into what feedback you see and feel in the driver's seat.

Did you get an alignment? Did they check castor? Did you measure pinion angle front and rear? Just because you have the mopar fixed lowers doesn't mean it's where it needs to be. I don't know a ton. I don't claim to. This is just my experience. I'm trying to get your brain turning. To look out for things, to think outside the box. To understand everything to look for. I'm so tired of typing, I'm going to end it. ?. It's late and i need sleep. ? good luck.
 
 







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