I wanted to look at the whole manual but I can't find it anywhere. I was going to call Mopar but they don't have a number! Anyone have a link to a copy of the manual?
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but even if your brake controller(regardless of brand)didn't show a fault, that would really only check electrical systems. The best test for a fully functional system would be the manual brake check.Oh so the Mopar one does give light indicators? I had been asking this all along and responses said no indicators. I can live with colored lights! I will definitely reconsider the Mopar one as I also do not like having to mount the P3 and banging my knee on it. Its also overkill big time for what I'm towing. I really prefer the clean install of the Mopar one.
By the way, It wasn't really a poor practice situation. I would have had to climb under the camper and visually inspect the brake lines to find that there was a cut in the line. The trailer lights were all still functioning. I camp alone so my standard practice when I pull out is I call my roommate and he stands at the front door and watches me test all my lights and turn signals and everything checked out. There is no indicator of electric brake failure that I know of other than the P3. I also check tire pressure before every trip.
I hear you on the stop and go brake check, and I should have done that, but I hadn't been doing that as I was always able to just rely on the P3 to see that pressure was being applied. The P3 shows in numbers the degree of braking being applied. In the case the morning I pulled out and the brakes weren't working, the P3 was showing intermittent brake connectivity so I'm assuming the line wasn't completely severed but eventually was by the time I got on the highway. I honestly thought the P3 was malfunctioning and not actual brake failure. Dumb of me to think that! I should default to the opposite assumption.
My trailer is about 2700 pounds, so I'm not going to feel it pushing the Jeep much unless I did a slam on the brakes scenario like when I'm initially setting up the controller.
Thanks for posting the page from the Mopar controller. This is a game changer.
Wouldn't that just be based on the input from the brake pedal or manual override? I'm assuming if you had worn out brakes or even more extreme removed the rotors/drums from the trailer the controller would tell you everything is functioning just fine based on all of the wiring being intact. My point is more that while the controller told you there was an electrical fault, I think there are other failures it probably can't detect so the only way to ensure a fully functional system is the manual override. Maybe someone can prove me wrong and I'd be happy to be educated on that.But the P3 actually shows the amount of brake being applied from the trailer. Like coming to a normal stop the P3 will show increments from 1 to the max setting number of 4 in my case for a hard stop. Since the brakes are electric powered its communicating the degree of brakes being applied isn't it? Not sure how to phrase my question.
I can post it up later. Do you want the user's guide sheet or the install instructions? I think someone posted the install instructions on this forum.I wanted to look at the whole manual but I can't find it anywhere. I was going to call Mopar but they don't have a number! Anyone have a link to a copy of the manual?
I had a Hopkins that did that and it is a cute little thing to display, but in reality it doesn't matter how much brake percentage is being applied. You need to be able to feel the trailer and adjust the brakes for the weight. When you feel it pull just a little, you want to reduce that amount just a hair so it is barely noticeable. The amount of brake needed in the city and highway are different. Automatics are good at compensating for these differences (from my experience), but they are not as good as a human who is paying attention to what is going on back there.But the P3 actually shows the amount of brake being applied from the trailer. Like coming to a normal stop the P3 will show increments from 1 to the max setting number of 4 in my case for a hard stop. Since the brakes are electric powered its communicating the degree of brakes being applied isn't it? Not sure how to phrase my question.
Is there a manual brake trigger on the Mopar? There is literally NOTHING about its functionality on the Mopar website. I mean is that the one you have installed? I certainly do all the safety checks I knew to do to include one final walk around the whole camper. I even have a checklist that I use even though I've done it all 500 times just to make sure I don't forget to check something. I check tire pressure every trip. I will add a manual brake check to that list. I had just been relying on the data the P3 was sending me which seemed to indicate perhaps less than I thought it was indicating. I thought that was good enough, but clearly it wasn't.After I hook up the first thing I do at the start of leaving is check brakes using the manual brake option, get up to 20-25mph then hit the manual brake and feel for the trailer brakes to engage and slow the vehicle down. I do this every time to verify brakes and adjust brakes if needed, just good practice. I also check all running lights, turn signals, hazard function and brake lights before every trip.
I recently saw this pic from someone in a JT forum. If I was going to do it again, I might do this because the redarc is a great unit (functions the same as the mopar one) and that is a good location w/ keeping the 12v port. Now I will say from installing my mopar harness, I don't think installing the redarc in this location is going to be easy. There are some features on the backside there behind it that will make this a challenge. But this is next level install location, I love it.You can't even get the brake controller at all right now. FCA issued a do not install order and the part is unavailable everywhere.