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[AndySpill]

Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why they tell you to bolt it down...

Not if you gave me an EZ Flip-Top, for free...... would I drill into my JL's hardtop to install that .....nor would I want to be driving around at any speed with my 2 Freedom Panels flipped upside down on the roof... held down with 3M tape and or bolts..

Looks like crap, undoubtedly lots of wind noise, with it's rattling... and how safe a set-up, who knows..

A year warranty on the EZ Flip-Top offering itself and you totally killed your factory hardtop warranty when you install the thing.

It amazes me what you think you know not owning the product, while it currently sits on my hard top: a product I installed myself.

I strongly suspect the bolts are for liability, introduced after my installation, because people don't clean their hardtops at the installation sight and/or install in cold temperatures.

And, yes, in fairness if it involved bolting at the time of purchase I would have taken pause. But it didn't, and doesn't need them. Do you know how freakin strong properly placed 3M VHB tape is on clean surfaces? I think you do.

Owning and using the product (as if you come to this table with the same knowledge here on this product as me ) I can tell you that the bolts are absolutely not needed provided you install correctly, which is not hard at all. I've had to be far more diligent on other installations.

If you don't like the product don't buy or use it. It doesn't make any noise when closed and certainly not more noise than the wind on a Sunrider when open. It positively is rattleless.

You saying things like undoubtedly more wind noise: your reaching, and how safe a set up...very safe. I did it, you didn't. How can you say: you don't own it.

And I kill no factory warranty, not at this point am I worried on my 2018 about that, as I did no drilling.

Put your smilly icon below. It's what you do when you lack facts.

"Undoubtedly" my arse. You'd be all over a poster who made such irresponsible comments on a product you own and like that they, not even owning, disparaged out of ignorance.

Unbelieveable. Yes, support forum vendors like Bestop, I do along with my money. But don't unfairly drag others through the mud.

Attention everyone, Rhinebeck won't use this product if you paid him, so by all means don't buy it!

Considering this product has safety implications I would, on top of all else not endorse it if it hasn't proved positively safe for me. IMHO the fiberglass of my top would crack (it won't, but my point is it's probably a point of weaker resistance) than the bonds the 3M tape of this product make .

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[Rhinebeck01]

aka: @RussJeep1 @Rahneld @Gee-pah )

I always have laughed at you over the years... Regardless of the ID you used. Why... because you earned the laughs.

Final word on this by me... Yes, I am laughing at you.... especially in light of your initial post in this thread.. and then the post you just made.. Remember you replied to this thread..

BUT.. in all seriousness, undoubtedly the manufacturer has heard of or experienced issues themselves with the 3M tape letting loose, etc.. with resulting damage to hardtop/Freedom Panels, personal injury or..

Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why you would want to bolt it down and not rely on 3M tape...

You might just want to reach out to the manufacturer of EZ Flip top and get the bolt package they apparently ship with the offering...

 

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[DieselJeep]

I’m really sorry I started this thread. I left for a few hours to go to a party and came back to this. I can’t believe a simple question devolved into a bunch of arguing.

Long story short, Andy spills is correct there is marketing materials and instructions on some websites indicate drilling isn’t required, which is what drew me to the product.

it seems that people were concerned why I am interested in the product. I work in chicago and would prefer a hard top solution due to crime. Additionally, I have a stroller in my truck which is why I can’t fit the the freedom panels.

 

[AndySpill]

@AndySpill

Final word on this by me... Yes, I am laughing at you.... especially in light of your initial post in this thread.. and then the post you just made.. Remember you replied to this thread..

BUT.. in all seriousness, undoubtedly the manufacturer has heard of or experienced issues themselves with the 3M tape letting loose, etc.. with resulting damage to hardtop/Freedom Panels, personal injury or..

Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why they tell you to bolt it down and not rely on 3M tape...

You might just want to reach out to the manufacturer of EZ Flip top and get the bolt package they apparently ship with the offering...

• There is positively nothing about my posts in this thread that don't comport with both truth, logic and each other. At the time of my purchase of this product there was no bolt kit, nor, when properly installed, which includes, as per the instructions the 1) cleaning of the install area with laquer thinner several times, the 2) application of the included 3M Primer 94 thereafter, and 3) an installation done above freezing temperatures, can I find any reason why the additional bolt installation step is needed. I stated from the onset the possibility that installation may have changed since my purchase.
• My voluntary choice to participate in a thread, which you seem to think is relevant, is not license for anyone to disparage anyone else or this product even if a poster's thoughts don't reflect fact, which in this case they (my thoughts) do. You can politely disagree with fact or opinion, not trying to pass opinion as fact.
• I suspect, but by no means will say "undoubtedly," a word you've used now twice here, once to describe incorrectly a product's noise that you don't own and can't possibly infer, (and that factually is positively wrong) and once to explain why bolts were later introduced--why bolts were subsequently introduced. What I suspect, is that too many people don't follow installation instructions, leading to situations where these bolts are fail safes to Freedom panels creating the dangerous situations that wrongly involve product manufacturers in lawsuits. It is hard for a manufacturing defendant to disprove an owner's claim that they applied the pre-installation chemicals. Not so with bolts.
• The only thing "undoubtedly" here, paradoxically enough, is to doubt you @Rhinebeck01 when you use this word without having done your homework. If you want something to laugh at, laugh at a poster who says "Undoubtedly lots of wind noise, with it's rattling... and how safe a set-up, who knows.." who admits to never have installed or used the product. I know, because unlike you I own it and can say that properly installed, even without bolts, it is very safe, no noisier open than any alternative, and no noisier closed that the absence of its installation.

There you go below...laughter emoticons when there's nothing funny above, or factual to reply back with. That stuff works when you can coast on a reputation for knowledge and unbiasedness, the latter I seriously question here, and that aren't both refuted by the facts of a thread, as is the case here.



Disclaimer: The Bestop Sunrider, which again I also own and have used, is IMHO an awesome product, and if more your thing than the EZ Top Hinges, then buy that. Funny, like the EZ Top Hinges it too was subject to design changes with its "Z" clips since initial release--which I point out as a testament to Bestop standing behind its work and subjecting it to recall, not as criticism that as a company they aren't perfect.

 

[AndySpill]

Hey everyone, how can you tell when @Rhinebeck01 is really mad....I mean really exposed factually and has no rebuttle?

It's when he not only laughs at your posts with icons, but then retracts those icons and reposts them so as to bomb your alerts with them.

 

[Txkelly65]

I was wondering if anyone has had a positive experience using these brackets? It seems like a good solution for me, because I want to remove my freedom tops but I don’t have the space to store them. Additionally, I like the idea of having a hard top for security reasons. I’m considering buying it, but there aren’t a ton of reviews online.

https://ez4x4.com/product/ez4x4-2018-2023-jlu-4-door-ezflip-top/

i have the EZ flip top on my Jeep and simply love it. I had it installed. The brackets are secured to the hard top using heavy 3M adhesive strips. There is no drilling. Having them flipped up looks a little odd but the convenience of having them always with you is worth it. They are safe to have flipped open at highway speeds.

 

[DieselJeep]

Here’s the answer from EZ4x4. They are saying the bolts are optional.

 

[jcruse64]

Maybe if they came with a free ice scraper, @Rhinebeck01 could get behind this product???

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