Cause for Concern After Installing Tazer????

[Izzo93]

So after installing the Tazer mini, after putting on 37’s, & doing the Rubi high line fender add on and putting the Quake LED slim chop kit…this is now occurring…but ONLY upon just starting the Jeep…

I’m getting a “Service ETC” briefly, and I mean BRIEFLY.

basically after I start the Jeep, and the Rubicon Splash goes through it cycle (I have a Sport)

for like .5 seconds - 1 second, the alarm comes up, then goes away.

Note - my idling seems a bit sporadic, though it is not showing so on my RPM’s.. just feels like it is almost “skipping / misfiring slightly” and I mean slightly but enough that it feels strange idling..

Has anyone had this issue after marrying the Tazer, and adding / removing or tweaking some things??

Reason for concern, obv I hope it’s not legit…but I never had that issue prior to installing Tazer.

2nd I’m still under 6 month , 6k mile warranty bumper to bumper, (which ends VERY soon) and if it is an issue I want to get it fixed so it’s $0 out of my pocket.

Is there a way to diagnose if it’s false or not? There is nothing in the Tazer instructions for diagnostics that mention this whatsoever.

I have rebooted, and went through probably 10 or so sleep cycles.

I’m posting this under General Questions, rather than Tech because I feel it is a general question rather than a direct tech question regarding the integrity of the OEM system since it now technically isn’t.

I messaged Joe at Tazer but no avail. So I’m hoping you guys can help, or atleast calm my nerves …. Video is too long to attach so it won’t let me, but I took a screen shot of exactly what pops up for literally like I said, .5-1 seconds then disappears.

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[Izzo93]

So after installing the Tazer mini, after putting on 37’s, & doing the Rubi high line fender add on and putting the Quake LED slim chop kit…this is now occurring…but ONLY upon just starting the Jeep…

I’m getting a “Service ETC” briefly, and I mean BRIEFLY.

basically after I start the Jeep, and the Rubicon Splash goes through it cycle (I have a Sport)

for like .5 seconds - 1 second, the alarm comes up, then goes away.

Note - my idling seems a bit sporadic, though it is not showing so on my RPM’s.. just feels like it is almost “skipping / misfiring slightly” and I mean slightly but enough that it feels strange idling..

Has anyone had this issue after marrying the Tazer, and adding / removing or tweaking some things??

Reason for concern, obv I hope it’s not legit…but I never had that issue prior to installing Tazer.

2nd I’m still under 6 month , 6k mile warranty bumper to bumper, (which ends VERY soon) and if it is an issue I want to get it fixed so it’s $0 out of my pocket.

Is there a way to diagnose if it’s false or not? There is nothing in the Tazer instructions for diagnostics that mention this whatsoever.

I have rebooted, and went through probably 10 or so sleep cycles.

I’m posting this under General Questions, rather than Tech because I feel it is a general question rather than a direct tech question regarding the integrity of the OEM system since it now technically isn’t.

I messaged Joe at Tazer but no avail. So I’m hoping you guys can help, or atleast calm my nerves …. Video is too long to attach so it won’t let me, but I took a screen shot of exactly what pops up for literally like I said, .5-1 seconds then disappears.

Also, I have tried reading thread after thread and again, cannot find really exactly what I’m referring to. I’ve seen posts about ETC issues etc. but nothing in regards to the Tazer in the same subject. If anyone could shed some light, or some possible advice, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[jeronimo]

I had this issue but I was also getting an issue with starting the engine e.g. my engine would refuse to start every so often after not using the JL for a week or so. Very difficult to troubleshoot as it was sporadically happening without any lead to link to. It happened to be an issue with faulty auxiliary battery. After it got replaced both the ETC alarm (showing exactly like yours) and the engine failing to start at times disappeared as issues. Hope this helps.

 

[Izzo93]

I had this issue but I was also getting an issue with starting the engine e.g. my engine would refuse to start every so often after not using the JL for a week or so. Very difficult to troubleshoot as it was sporadically happening without any lead to link to. It happened to be an issue with faulty auxiliary battery. After it got replaced both the ETC alarm (showing exactly like yours) and the engine failing to start at times disappeared as issues. Hope this helps.

So you think it could be unrelated to my Tazer? Or do you think I should maybe unmarry it, go back to OE specs then see if it’s doing it? My cause / thought is I still have a bit left on my 6k mile bumper to bumper warranty

 

[jeronimo]

So you think it could be unrelated to my Tazer? Or do you think I should maybe unmarry it, go back to OE specs then see if it’s doing it? My cause / thought is I still have a bit left on my 6k mile bumper to bumper warranty

I am just saying that even without a Tazer I had part of your issue e.g. the ETC alarm and it's appearance. I didn't notice any misfiring whatsoever as you did. Issue resolved after AUX battery was swapped with a new one.

I never used Tazer so it's difficult to comment on your particular setup, but from what I read and researched online I wouldn't attribute this particular issue to the Tazer. It might be just a coincidence. To be on the safe side, probably a way to troubleshoot and rule it out is to unmarry (especially if you don't need any of the live features), re-plug the SGW and monitor if the issues would persist and then if they still do probably go to Jeep service to have it looked at.

 

[Izzo93]

I am just saying that even without a Tazer I had part of your issue e.g. the ETC alarm and it's appearance. I didn't notice any misfiring whatsoever as you did. Issue resolved after AUX battery was swapped with a new one.

I never used Tazer so it's difficult to comment on your particular setup, but from what I read and researched online I wouldn't attribute this particular issue to the Tazer. It might be just a coincidence. To be on the safe side, probably a way to troubleshoot and rule it out is to unmarry (especially if you don't need any of the live features), re-plug the SGW and monitor if the issues would persist and then if they still do probably go to Jeep service to have it looked at.

That’s along the lines of what I was thinking. Thanks dude I’ll try that route ??

 

[Ridgway Jeeper]

The rough idle seems pretty normal for the 3.6, though you have not even mentioned which engine you have. I do not think it has anything to do with the Tazer. I would be replacing the aux battery and accepting the missing at idle as normal, my brand new '21 does that with less than 2500 miles on it, done it since new and there are lots of reports here of the same behavior. There are also lots of reports of the aux battery causing all kinds of different electronic problems and they do not seem to last very long (the battery). I do not recall any threads where the Tazer mini has caused people problems and I do not think the missing at idle and the ETC warning are at all related.

 

[Izzo93]

The rough idle seems pretty normal for the 3.6, though you have not even mentioned which engine you have. I do not think it has anything to do with the Tazer. I would be replacing the aux battery and accepting the missing at idle as normal, my brand new '21 does that with less than 2500 miles on it, done it since new and there are lots of reports here of the same behavior. There are also lots of reports of the aux battery causing all kinds of different electronic problems and they do not seem to last very long (the battery). I do not recall any threads where the Tazer mini has caused people problems and I do not think the missing at idle and the ETC warning are at all related.

Thanks

 

[hoag4147]

Do you see any CELs in the tazer error code list? If yes, clear them and then reboot/sleep cycle. Gremlins are never fun

 

[Izzo93]

@Izzo93

I'm not sure why you reached out to ZAutomotive... doing that was kinda like putting the cart in front of the horse..

Troubleshoot, first ..... research...... and then reach out to vendors, once you have a clue. You can't expect a vendor to troubleshoot something like this...

With that said unmarry and remove the Tazer JL Mini. Be sure to reconnect the 2 cables at the security gateway.

Now troubleshoot. and.... do run without the Tazer JL Mini for a few days.. until your issue is resolved.

Undoubtedly, your issue(s) have absolutely nothing to do with the Tazer JL Mini.

I obviously did research or I wouldn’t have made a thread about it, and didn’t find the issue I was looking for, hence my OBVIOUS reason for messaging the vendor. Even the instructions for set up were AWFUL. Per the one downloaded off the site, and every thread I read through I couldn’t get a clear response. Hence a friend / member @hoag4147 actually sent me the instructions to his, which being over 1.5 years old on his mini was CLEAR, Legible, and made sense.And it was multiple issues I reached out for but that is not my reasoning here nor is it relevant.

So yes, forgive me that I reached out to the vendor / person who I purchased said item for, being the Tazer, because I was unsure of symptoms and issues I was having, ALL stemming from poorly guided instructions, and my most recent issue I’m not describing.

this is my DD, and it is under warranty. I’ve never used a Tazer or tuner (other than on my Harleys) in my life, and excuse me for wanting to make sure I didn’t / the Tazer didn’t mess anything up in my JLs system. Not everybody is rich and can take time off to directly troubleshoot or go somewhere to get it fixed.



With all that aside, thank you though on the second half of your message for the informative help. No need to be a smart a$$ in the beginning portion. This is a forum site, that’s part of what is so great about an active, knowledgeable site with many resources as this. You we have that option.

Again, thank you for your knowledgeable second part of your response. As stated by @Ridgway Jeeper & ideas by @jeronimo and my thoughts as well, that’s what I’ll be doing.

 

[Izzo93]

Do you see any CELs in the tazer error code list? If yes, clear them and then reboot/sleep cycle. Gremlins are never fun

So if I don’t have any CELs on, there could still CEL’s on the Tazer code list? No I didn’t realize that nor check. I’m not sure I am getting dressed to run some errands today, but I’m gonna get dressed and got out and check that now @hoag4147 and I’ll let you know. Thanks again for all your help

 

[hoag4147]

So if I don’t have any CELs on, there could still CEL’s on the Tazer code list? No I didn’t realize that nor check. I’m not sure I am getting dressed to run some errands today, but I’m gonna get dressed and got out and check that now @hoag4147 and I’ll let you know. Thanks again for all your help

Sorry man. Wrong term used. I meant DTCs

 

[xtremejoe]

I have had the same issue. Not sure if its the Tazer or other gremlins. So far living with it and a couple of other messages that come and go. Hard to tell it all the extra electronics vs. the simpler Jeeps of past.
I have had way too many vehicles and the Jeep(s) have always given me the most problems.
As an aside, my Tazer just died and I think I may run without it for a bit. Their customer service leaves a lot to be desired, not withstanding a few very hardcore supporters of it.

 

[Izzo93]

I have had the same issue. Not sure if its the Tazer or other gremlins. So far living with it and a couple of other messages that come and go. Hard to tell it all the extra electronics vs. the simpler Jeeps of past.
I have had way too many vehicles and the Jeep(s) have always given me the most problems.
As an aside, my Tazer just died and I think I may run without it for a bit. Their customer service leaves a lot to be desired, not withstanding a few very hardcore supporters of it.

The ending “not withstanding a couple hardcore supporters of it” never fail to get a good laugh

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